5+ Shootings in Chattanooga Overnight?

Where's all the good guys with guns stopping the bad guys with guns. That's all wee need according to the NRA. Come on permit holders sack-up.

Why are they skeerd? I would be too If I had to live in Nooga stay in bed in a fetal position it's not a matter of if you'll get shot it's just a matter when you'll get shot.

You have a valid and true point JIT.. We all know this why can't we stop it? Instead let's clicket and ticket and booze it and lose it. Maybe even get a semi-truck that get's four miles to the gallon and stop those texter's. That's the real crime wave..

Get in the neighborhoods with this slogan.."Don't breed them if you can't feed them. "Hey playa you gonna bail out then pull out" "gonna have a night of thrills buy an abortion pill"

That, in, and of itself, is way too Armageddonish for me to even contemplate, much less attempt to address, after 30+ hours of no sleep. (I lost count on the actual 'hours awake' thing, so I'll stand corrected, if alleged otherwise.)



It is ILLEGAL to stop a car just to check sobriety, seatbelt and insurance compliance, in Tennessee. It is only legal, in Tennessee, to briefly detain any car (A matter of seconds), at a previously publicly declared location, during a previously publicly declared time frame, to check for insobriety in the interest of protecting the motoring public from drink-drivers. All at the reasonable expense of a few SCOTUS endorsed seconds for the rest of us.

It is unlawful for any LE agency (Except the Tennessee Highway Patrol) to demand, at such a stop, a driver's license, proof of insurance, any other document or 'Papers.'

Seat Belt/Child Restraint use/non-use is a 'Plain View' issue as addressed by a much-argued SCOTUS decided exemption to the Fourth Amendment.



Because the Tennessee Supreme Court, and SCOTUS, have ruled that this type of 'stop' would be in direct violation of the Fourth Amendment?



Yep. 'Old line', indeed, aceman. That same line was used to endorse, prop up and proliferate pretty much all pro-slavery doctrines, Jim Crow laws and any anti-civil rights laws, in the South, since 'Reconstruction.'

Pedophile predators are now using the same out-of-context concept, as proffered by aceman, to defend, in court, their righteous prosecution for abusing our children. According to these scumbags, it is an infringement on their 'liberties' when legally weighed against the interest of the 'safety' of CHILDREN.

Taken to it's extreme, (As expressed and endorsed, by many of our politicians, our courts and our media) that 'saying' simply endorses anarchism. 'Liberty' does, indeed have it's limits. 'Liberty' also has it's responsibilities.



So it's a numbers issue for the aceman? Are we interested in passing any gun or vehicle legislation based on numbers, now?

34,767 people in the US were killed in car crashes in 2012.

It's been alleged that 31,000 people in the US have been killed by guns in 2012 (This number includes murders, accidental discharges and suicides)

According to the CDC, reported by WikiAnswers, which automatically should be accepted as fact), 11,493 people have been killed by guns in homicides (The real issue here.)

If we are basing our Constitutionally vetted laws based solely on safety (Or, in other oft politically expressed hollow words to, "SAVE ONE LIFE!") as acemen, et al, demand (when it comes to guns), then why do we have any speed limit, in the entire United States, that is higher than 25 miles per hour?

How many NRA members/law abiding gun carriers were shot in Chattanooga this year?

Yeah, blaming thug crime on the NRA is like blaming obesity on water.

You my friend are a smart man. They don't have Law Enforcements best interests in mind at all. In fact they are saying sack up and out gun them. He with most destructive guns wins. Don't hate the player hate the game.

Good comments and pretty much sums up the situation.