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Post by Chattanooga Police on Aug 8, 2008 16:20:12 GMT -5
Friday, August 08, 2008
Chattanooga Police Major Crimes Investigators have charged Justin Loines in the death of his 2-yr-old stepson. He was charged with aggravated child abuse and felony murder after a medical examiner’s findings reported that the child’s death was the result of homicide.
Police were called to Memorial North Park Hospital Wednesday after Loines brought the lifeless child into the emergency room. Investigators were told that the child was injured at 6225 Dayton Blvd and was brought into the emergency room by Loines.
Loines reported that the child fell off of a plastic picnic table which was one foot from the ground, and struck his head on the plastic table. Initial examination of the child showed signs of trauma and the child had multiple bruise about the face.
The child’s mother was reported to have been at work during the time of the incident. Loines will be booked into the Hamilton County Jail.
Sgt Jerri Weary, PIO Chattanooga Police Department
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Post by SunnyKC on Aug 8, 2008 16:22:58 GMT -5
bastard....
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Post by osrb on Aug 9, 2008 12:41:50 GMT -5
put him in general population in the jail and let him feel what the child felt.
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 13, 2008 3:32:29 GMT -5
You are kidding right?
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 13, 2008 4:09:15 GMT -5
Investigators Say 2-Year-Old Christopher Patton Suffered A Violent Death
Posted: Aug 12, 2008 05:29 PM
Updated: Aug 12, 2008 05:47 PM
Medical Examiner's Report CHATTANOOGA (WRCB) - Investigators say the Chattanooga boy who died last week was beaten to death. The medical examiner's report reveals that 2-year-old Christopher Patton died a violent death caused by inflicted blunt force trauma. The report outlines dozens of bruises and a fractured skull. Investigators say the injuries listed in the report are not consistent with the stepfather's explanation that the boy fell from a kid's plastic picnic table at their home on Dayton Boulevard. "It's blows, beating, stomping however you want to call it. It could be slamming the child up against a wall. We don't know due to the fact that the story we got is the child fell and it's an accident," said Chattanooga Police Lt. Tim Carroll. Christopher's stepfather, Justin Loines is charged with aggravated child abuse and felony murder. The mother, Ashley Loines was at work at the time of the incident. Yea, those injuries are consistent with a 1 foot fall. Happens all the time. And Dude is such a "Good Christian guy". Only an uninformed dolt would see this as a rush to judgment.
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Post by blindsolitude on Aug 13, 2008 8:05:20 GMT -5
Actually, in the article it said "initial examination." That doesn't mean an autopsy. They were probably referring to the doctors who examined the child when he was brought in. Most likely, just looking at the body can give evidence of abuse. An autopsy would show if the abuse has been happening over a longer period of time since they would be able to look at the bones, etc.
And I don't think the police were going off of assumptions. . .more like their investigation and the hospital's report. A one foot fall from a PLASTIC picnic table (you know, those yellow and red ones you see in almost every family's yard?) does not give you a fractured skull or multiple bruises on your face or trauma.
Seems like your the one making assumptions about the police department. I'm sure you have your reasons for apparently hating and distrusting police, but don't think that every single officer is horrible. Many of the ones I have met a great people and do their jobs extremely well. And I have met maybe 1-2 who aren't so great.
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Post by Copperhead on Aug 13, 2008 8:17:02 GMT -5
What are the police trying to accomplish? Make everyone afraid to take their children to the hospital when they get hurt? Why didn't he just call 911, then?
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Post by blindsolitude on Aug 13, 2008 8:22:33 GMT -5
I also wanted to add that people at the hospital know what injuries are common with children that age. I also think they are aware when people are giving them some BS story about their child's injuries.
I'm pretty sure that the hospital has to call police if they suspect abuse. I may be wrong though.
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Post by blindsolitude on Aug 13, 2008 10:24:21 GMT -5
MEs are called to scenes in the case of a death. The can do a preliminary examination of the body. This is not an autopsy, but MEs can tell you the time of death and a possible cause of death. However, since the child was already at the hospital, I'm not sure if they were called. The attending doctor could tell you the TOD. With the hospital evidence, doctors' observations, etc it seems the police had the right to arrest him. By the way, I've re-read the story on chattanoogan's webiste and it looks like he was charged on the 8th and the child died on the 6th. That's enough time to do an autospy. www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/aug/09/red-bank-man-charged-boys-death/?localAlthough I don't know all the facts, the ones that have been released and the story posted, make me inclined NOT to believe him. I don't automatically assume anyone who's arrested is guilty. I assume they are guilty when facts point in their direction.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Aug 13, 2008 12:32:17 GMT -5
The police should have also shot the family's dogs.
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Post by Copperhead on Aug 13, 2008 14:30:21 GMT -5
I am glad that people in the hospital watch for signs of child abuse and are free to call police when they suspect a problem. No, they're not "free to call police when they suspect a problem". All health professionals are required to call police if they suspect child abuse. According to Tennessee law, all persons (including doctors, mental health professionals, child care providers, dentists, family members and friends) must report suspected cases of child abuse or neglect. Failure to report child abuse or neglect is a violation of the law. tennessee.gov/youth/childsafety/whoshouldreport.htm
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Post by snarkalicious on Aug 13, 2008 18:23:35 GMT -5
I've been a nurse for over 20 years, and I've seen child abuse. Medical professionals and police can sometimes spot abuse before ever examining a child.
I've also been a mother for 25 years to 5 kids, and I've taken them to the doctor and the ER with assorted injuries. No one ever "jumped to conclusions" about any of my kids' injuries (and believe me, my oldest son had some really wild accidents!) because I had a relatively rational explanation for each of them.
A 2 year old does not fracture their skull from a fall off a child-sized table. It would take considerable force to cause this kind of injury. And if a child is that critically injured, you call 911, you don't transport them yourself. This child was already dead when he was brought into the ER. If you came upon a child who was not moving or breathing, wouldn't you call 911 immediately?
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 13, 2008 18:37:16 GMT -5
Nope, not applekey. EMS, ER Docs and nurses, the ME, the media, the Bilderberger Commission and the Cops are all in on the cover up and framing of this dude.
Off to bang my head against the wall and read more of applekey's stuff.
I doubt even that will cause a skull fracture and well healed bruises and breaks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2008 19:36:00 GMT -5
> Off to bang my head against the wall and read more of applekey's stuff. > I doubt even that will cause a skull fracture and well healed bruises and breaks.
Need a hand?
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 14, 2008 3:52:28 GMT -5
Yes, it is an awesome responsibility and not taken lightly as you alleged against LE, the ME and ER doctors in one your very first posts here. To wit: Then you accuse the Medical Examiner of incompetence/malfeasance in the cause of death ruling. To wit: You then accuse the police of jumping to conclusions and arresting a person, on an opinion, without any evidence, which would be a violation of the law. To Wit: And finally, you accuse the police of endangering other children by intentionally discouraging parents from seeking medical care for their children due to this alleged chilling effect, caused by LE arresting a parent without a "shred of evidence". To wit: In one post, you made serious allegations without one "shred of evidence", fact or even innuendo. When one proffers illogical, factless and baseless statements, expressed with an obviously anti-LE bias, one can expect a response from me. Yes, we want new posters here. Ones with a modicum of common sense and a grasp of reality, even if tenuous. Proffer the BS you have, in just one post, you can expect a response, sometimes heated, from any LE on here. Proffer a reasoned, logical, seated in known facts, opinion or post, (Whether it it is critical of LE or not) and you'll get the response those opinions or observations deserve*. If you wanna play in the kitchen, don't whine when it gets hot when you turn up the heat. *(See any one of JiT's posts {And others} for an example of a constructively critical, or questioning posts along these lines)
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 14, 2008 4:13:18 GMT -5
Sister of dead 2-year-old removed from home, stepfather charged with murder
By: Adam Crisp With her stepfather accused of killing her two-year-old brother, the victim’s sister has been removed from the home, officials said. Chloe Patten of Hixson is now in state custody, said Rob Johnson, a state spokesman for Hamilton County Child Protective Services. Her age was not given. Justin Loines, 24, has been charged with felony murder and aggravated child abuse in connection with the death of Christopher Landen Patten, according to court records. Chattanooga police have said Mr. Loines brought Christopher to the emergency room at Memorial North Park Hospital on Aug. 6. The child was pronounced dead a short time later, and Mr. Loines said at the time the boy fell from a child-size picnic table. From the article...
"A preliminary medical examiner’s report detailed “multiple blunt-force injuries” and other trauma to the boy’s body. The report said those injuries were the cause of death, but Christopher also suffered a fractured skull and ruptured spleen, according to court filings."For those who think that LE, the ME and ER doctors/nurses are rushing to judgment, without a shred of evidence, in this case...
A ruptured spleen, skull fracture and “multiple blunt-force injuries” do not result from a low fall. I am glad that the other child has been removed which also may be seen as a rush to judgment without a shred of evidence.
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Post by alphacelt on Aug 14, 2008 9:49:27 GMT -5
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Post by blindsolitude on Aug 14, 2008 9:53:39 GMT -5
Personally, I don't mind well-thought out differing opinions about topics. It makes for good discussions. What I don't like is when actual facts are blatantly ignored just to prove a point. . . it doesn't make for a good argument. For instance, saying the ME couldn't make a judgement on C.O.D, when the stepfather was arrested 2 days after the event. . .plenty of time to make that decision. Maybe you misread the article? I'm not sure. Like I've said previously, I don't jump to a person being guilty just b/c they're arrested. However, if most of the facts are there and point in their direction, then I make my judgement. I'm not sure how anyone could believe that a one foot fall off and into a kid's PLASTIC picnic table could cause BFT, multiple bruising, swollen eyes, etc.
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Post by Babs on Aug 14, 2008 17:19:41 GMT -5
Armchair forensic specialist
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 14, 2008 17:21:53 GMT -5
You ignored all the facts that were right there on your computer monitor (The square bright thing above the keyboard) and jumped over the moon to reach conclusions that had no basis in fact. You'd make a perfect politician or media person, applekey. Admitting you are misinformed is the first step along the path to joining the rest of us folks living in the real world. I forgive you.
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 14, 2008 18:35:59 GMT -5
And your apology was accepted. When one yells "Fire" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire, one should fully expect a repercussion or two.
This is why LE investigates things before they publish things about those things.
Had you prefaced your misinformed opinion with "The Grandmother told me.."; although hearsay, would have qualified the bias in your response and I doubt you would be getting the grief.
Ticket = Ride.
You stated it, realized the mistake and apologized, which was accepted.
Time to move along and get on with your life.
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 14, 2008 18:57:35 GMT -5
If you can stomach it, here is the autopsy report and affidavit (Not an opinion): Graphic and sickening... If this abuse had been going on for some time, I wonder why responsible adults took no steps to end it.
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Post by RuneDeer on Aug 14, 2008 20:20:32 GMT -5
She says she is genuinely suffering and shocked. What else could she say?
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Post by Babs on Aug 14, 2008 21:13:52 GMT -5
Oh my God... The report is horrible.
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Post by tcrashfx on Aug 15, 2008 4:12:12 GMT -5
Like I said earlier...Those injuries took some time to inflict and it appears some were old. In my experience (That's a qualifier, applekey) assaults on children are a result of intense and immediate rage and escalate until the child is finally beaten too much as it appears to have occurred in this case. I have seldom seen a child beaten to death from the first incident of abuse. How much time had this grandmother spent with the child? Had she ever visited the hovel these kids lived in? Had the child "fallen down" a bit too much? I know my kid's Grandmothers note and question each and every cut, bruise and skinned knee. It's what most of them do. But if she were not around the kids much I could see where she did not have the opportunity to see the damage. In my experience (That's another qualifier, applekey) others could have known about the abuse and could have acted before the final act. Hopefully, these questions will be answered as the case moves through the Courts. No matter what happens now, it is too late for this little one.
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Post by Babs on Aug 15, 2008 6:22:39 GMT -5
Tncrash, you are so right. This was not an isolated incident.... It had to be going on for some time. Children are often to point out with pride and hopes for some sympathy any bumps or cuts. Someone knew....and didn't say. I wouldn't hit a pillow in anger as he did.
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Post by Copperhead on Aug 15, 2008 7:32:10 GMT -5
Looking at my 2 y/o old, I can't imagine what little Christopher Patton endured at the hands of his stepfather, Justin Loines. Loines is such a tough guy he apparently had to beat up a TWO YEAR OLD instead of picking on somebody his OWN size. He's a coward who deserves to be locked up in the general prison population. May his creator have mercy on his soul. I also wonder what Christopher's mother was thinking & if she's been beaten much by this guy? Her being beaten into submission/silence is the only reason I can think of not protecting her child...unless she was beating the child herself.
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Post by snarkalicious on Aug 15, 2008 8:03:58 GMT -5
Some of those injuries were circular shaped burns-as in cigarette burns.
Did you look at that autopsy report? A mother who undresses and bathes her 2 year old would need to be blind not to notice those injuries....
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Post by julia on Aug 15, 2008 8:12:13 GMT -5
Jesus. What a way to start the morning. This guy and that bitch mother (she could not possibly have been ignorant of this) should be stoned. Yes. Large rocks should be hurled at them with great force and publicly. I'll throw the first one if given the chance. I'm sick...absolutely sick.
It's things like this that make me hang on to my firm belief in the death penalty.
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Post by julia on Aug 15, 2008 8:27:10 GMT -5
Yes, but then you would be assuming that SHE took care of him. I have known a few women who work nights and leave their children with the boyfriend/step-father. Who says she is the one who ever 'took care of him'? And seriously, how good a mom is she when it is reported that there was feces on the home floor? I'm thinking the children may not have gotten very much 'good' maternal care.
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