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Post by CMF Newsman on Mar 20, 2007 10:31:21 GMT -5
Rep. Zach Wamp said Monday that former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson is very likely to run for president. The Third District congressman told the Chattanooga Pachyderm Club, "I had a follow-up conversation with Fred Thompson, and there is a real, real strong possibility that he will run." He said Thompson "has to meet some obligations" with the "Law and Order" TV show and with broadcaster Paul Harvey. He said Thompson has set aside April 18 and will meet with members of Congress. Rep. Wamp said he has already lined up over 40 members who are interested in the Thompson candidacy. www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_103851.asp
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Post by Felix on Mar 20, 2007 10:35:20 GMT -5
So, in the remainder of this year, after April 18, Thompson has to raise in the neighborhood of...$100Mil? I have seen that figure cited several times as the cost of a serious nomination run.
On name and face recognition, and character, he is an attractive candidate. Is there enough time for him to become a player? Funding on that scale being hard to find, I should think.
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Post by tcrashfx on Mar 20, 2007 10:56:03 GMT -5
I think that a lot of big $$$ republicans are already in line to share their wealth with Sen. Thompson.
I may even send him some.
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Post by Gary on Mar 20, 2007 11:31:06 GMT -5
> Is there enough time for him to become a player?
Considering that the first primaries are still a year away, I would say he has plenty of time.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 20, 2007 12:43:27 GMT -5
If Wamp is supporting him, I may have to rethink my support of his presidency. If Wamp is for it, it's hard to think that it could be a good thing.
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Post by daworm on Mar 20, 2007 13:02:38 GMT -5
Well, if he understood anything rather than following the political winds, I might join you.
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Post by Longshot! [ Saint ] on Mar 21, 2007 4:33:33 GMT -5
No, no--I believer Fred would make an excellent Vice President.
...To Giuliani.
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Post by Danger Ranger on Mar 21, 2007 17:53:15 GMT -5
So, in the remainder of this year, after April 18, Thompson has to raise in the neighborhood of...$100Mil? Easily. He could pull half that amount just from TN. I think that figure may be a bit steep too. 2008 will no doubt be a record year since this will be the first time in my lifetime that a sitting VP hasn't had a near lock on his respective parties nomination, and the field will be wide open on both sides of the aisle. But I would think that $60-70M would suffice for the nomination.
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Post by Gary on Mar 21, 2007 17:57:12 GMT -5
> But I would think that $60-70M would suffice for the nomination.
I've seen expert estimates that each nominee will need to spend between $100 to $150 million to win the general election. This is going to be the most expensive campaign in history, and Democrats have vowed not to be outspent this time around.
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Post by gvmule on Mar 21, 2007 19:22:48 GMT -5
If Fred gets in around Sept. he will be fine. We'll see Newt get in around that time as well. I bet the money is rolling in as we speak!
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Post by Danger Ranger on Mar 21, 2007 22:30:12 GMT -5
Yes, 100 to 150 million for the sum total...primary AND general election. 60-70 million would be one hell of a war chest for a primary. Maybe that was what was being said, but I read it as estimates were 100 million just for the primary. Either way, Thompson won't have any worries in the fund-raising department. GOP power brokers are falling all over themselves to get behind him.
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Post by Felix on Mar 21, 2007 22:39:38 GMT -5
I think DR is right about the total for nomination and election. I misspoke limiting it to just the nomination.
A LOT of money, anyway. Of course Thompson has more name recognition, in a positive way, than anybody else in the race, from either party. That may be enough to line up all the support financially that he will need.
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Post by Babs on Mar 21, 2007 23:22:34 GMT -5
The other night on the Phil Valentine show, some guy from up north somewhere, called in really praising Thompson. Phil remarked that he was surprised that the caller knew so much about him, since not too many people outside of Tenn. had heard of him. The caller said that he just kept up with poliltics.
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Post by gvmule on Mar 22, 2007 8:46:03 GMT -5
In 73/74, Fred was co-chief counsel to the senate watergate committee. He asked the witness if he knew of any lisTening devices that might be in the oval history! That was just one of the questions that some say helped move Nixon to resign.
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Post by voxpopuli on Mar 22, 2007 14:35:30 GMT -5
He's a real person, and when you meet him in person, it's very obvious he is not a sound-bite politician, but someone who takes things very seriously.
I remember years ago when he was running for the Senate, he made a campaign appearance at Miller Plaza. He pulled up in a nice pickup truck, jumped out wearing boots, blue jeans and a nice button-down shirt, which a rather harried looking aide trying to keep up. He immediately started shaking hands and talking with people, completely ignoring the aide, who was frantically trying to keep him to some sort of schedule.
He got my vote then, and he'll have my vote for any office he decides to run for in the future.
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Post by gvmule on Mar 22, 2007 16:44:18 GMT -5
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Post by legaltender on Mar 22, 2007 17:25:29 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on Mar 22, 2007 20:13:15 GMT -5
Instead of just posting a link, how about a couple of paragraphs from the story. Works a lot better to foster discussion when you do it that way.
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Post by legaltender on Mar 22, 2007 22:23:08 GMT -5
Instead of just posting a link, how about a couple of paragraphs from the story. Works a lot better to foster discussion when you do it that way. Sorry, I usually do. Just mocking gvmule. The extreme right-wing is not on board with the Thompson candidacy. The rant linked above is titled, "Fred Thompson: Neocon Globalist."Herein excerpted: "As one commentator notes: 'Overall, Americans for Better Immigration gives [Thompson] a career grade of C; on chain migration, C; visa lottery, C-; reducing unnecessary visas, F; on reducing asylum fraud, C-; on reducing amnesties, D; and on interior enforcement, C+. Although he was tough on border control, he was lacking in almost every other area.' Fred Thompson also supports affirmative action, and ideologically worships free trade, regardless how much it harms America. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, but Thompson, like others, has been "neoconned" into backing it." (The fringe employs no fact-checker.)
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Post by gvmule on Mar 23, 2007 6:23:30 GMT -5
Mocking has no effect on me. If you are going to be that childish please go over to that other forum with the rest of those children and you will fit right in!!
Furthermore, I think one can say and do alot of things while just a citizen but once for example one throws his/her hat into the ring for president than the platform and agenda changes somewhat.
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Post by traveler on Mar 23, 2007 8:31:44 GMT -5
Regarding the fundraising issue, I have been told that a 527 has already been established and is raising funds for the Draft Thompson movement.
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Post by Gary on Mar 23, 2007 9:14:16 GMT -5
> Mocking has no effect on me
It must, since you felt it necessary to respond to it.
Just saying...
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Post by gvmule on Mar 23, 2007 11:23:45 GMT -5
You are wrong. Sorry!!
Just saying
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Post by Gary on Mar 23, 2007 11:46:54 GMT -5
Gvmule, I think you are unclear on the whole concept. If something has "no effect" on you, you ignore it. If you feel compelled to respond, then it most definitely has had an effect on you.
It might not sway or change your opinion any, but it has had an effect.
And I'd like to give you a little challenge - instead of just posting links from right-wing blogs, how about sharing your own opinions in your own words?
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Post by gvmule on Mar 23, 2007 11:57:57 GMT -5
Well I tried that with you last forum but I was told I was wrong because I would not show a link where my thoughts came from. So, I starting linking.
What surprised me was an adult showing a chidish side of "Mocking"
I hope because we disagree I do not get banned
Peace
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Post by Gary on Mar 23, 2007 12:05:18 GMT -5
> Well I tried that with you last forum but I was told I was wrong because I would not show a link where my thoughts came from. So, I starting linking.
Excuse me? There's a difference between saying, "This is what I think" and saying "This is what happened". I called you on stating "facts" without any corroboration.
And just posting random links without any comment is, quite frankly, lame. It shows no original thought. Neither is something I'm interested in see here.
Bottom line: if you can't tell the difference between opinion and fact, then you have much greater problems than dealing with Internet message forums.
That challenge has been made - can you accept it without whining?
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Post by gvmule on Mar 23, 2007 12:12:53 GMT -5
looks like that whining is a two way street!
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Post by Gary on Mar 23, 2007 12:49:20 GMT -5
No, you just haven't yet figured out who the host of this forum is. I've asked you to participate in a normal manner, and all I get is lip from you. Do you really want to continue down that path, or will you take the not-so-subtle hint and actually open your mind instead of nitpicking?
It's your choice.
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Post by gvmule on Mar 23, 2007 13:05:03 GMT -5
That's right it is my choice. To bad that you can not help but be an asshole.
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Post by Gary on Mar 23, 2007 13:28:33 GMT -5
Well, that was an easy decision.
Apparently some people just can't take a hint that the stove is hot and will burn.
Sela, amigo.
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