It’s Not About Stand Your Ground

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It’s Not About Stand Your Ground
We should reserve judgment, but it seems that Zimmerman acted lawfully.
By John R. Lott Jr.
March 28, 2012

President Obama, Jesse Jackson, and others have chosen to personalize the shooting of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., highlighting the racial issues by expressing concern for people who look like they do or live where “blacks are under attack.” Many conservatives and liberals have also already concluded that the shooter committed a crime. All of these reactions are premature.

In response to the shooting, Florida governor Rick Scott has set up a commission to review the state’s “Stand Your Ground” law. Gun-control organizations, including the Brady Campaign, have gone beyond this and even more drastically called for the end of right-to-carry laws.

But such outrage should be restrained until we have all of the facts. Zimmerman’s call to the police, which has been heard over and over again, does not appear to tell the whole story. There is other information that appears to back up the shooter’s account. That evidence, rather than racism, might well be the reason that police chose not to arrest the shooter. Fox 35 in Orlando spoke to one eyewitness, identified as “John,” the day after the shooting. He explained: “The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: ‘Help, help’ . . . and I told him to stop and I was calling 9-1-1.”

The witness further indicated that it was the guy on top who was doing the hitting, and that the shot occurred while that attack was taking place. The man who shot Martin, George Zimmerman, was the man in the red jacket. The police report corroborates the witness’s account: “While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head.” Zimmerman told the police, “I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me.”

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Source: times free press

[Half-Tard]

When you initiate the trouble stand your ground has been by passed. He was told to back off. But he is a wannbe cop went looking for trouble. Trouble found him.

[goomba]

here is a question. is an order from a dispatcher the same as a POST certified officer the same?

[JC]

Mar 29, 2012 16:43:39 GMT -5 goomba said:

here is a question. is an order from a dispatcher the same as a POST certified officer the same?

No, not in FL. It wasn't an "order" anyway.... and he did comply with the operator.
Here's what was said: www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

"the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you
following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do
that”.

You can listen to the 911 calls here: sanfordfl.gov/investigation/trayvon_martin.html

In the first recording, Zimmerman is heard complying with the operator's suggestion and says he will meet the cops at his truck.
In the third recording, you can hear Zimmerman screaming for help for several seconds before gun shots are heard.