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Post by BlackFox on Jun 21, 2012 18:47:07 GMT -5
No. Neither. Or, cite research by reputable sources. His usual sources are those beacons objectivity The Partnership for a Drug Free America and the NIDA.
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Post by TNBear on Jun 21, 2012 19:22:41 GMT -5
LR, please provide links to the studies that show "the higher concentrations of THC cause people to become VIOLENT and AGITATED when they cannot obtain their weed".
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jun 22, 2012 10:14:19 GMT -5
Already have done so, multiple times. Why don't you potheads provide some links FROM CREDIBLE SOURCES that prove weed is completely harmless? Blackfox's beacons of objectivity are as far to his side of the argument as my sources are to mine. Although, the LAST time this discussion surfaced, I provided links to the British equivalent of our American Medical Association that profiled studies of the ill effects of marijuana and some propensity toward violence as the THC levels were raised. Ironically, they could NOT raise the THC level to where hyroponically grown weed is, because of the potential dangers to the participants. Seemed pretty telling to me.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jun 22, 2012 10:35:10 GMT -5
Naturally violent people who are calmed by weed are going to appear to become violent when they can't get their weed. They are violent people and what has been keeping them mellow isn't available. The weed didn't bring on the violence the lack of weed did. Make it legal and you'll see less violence because these violent people will have their weed and stay mellow.
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Post by JC on Jun 22, 2012 12:05:05 GMT -5
There are a few news stories that have been posted here recently thgat say the opposite, JT.
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Post by BlackFox on Jun 22, 2012 12:14:36 GMT -5
There are a few news stories that have been posted here recently thgat say the opposite, JT. I'm not sure which stories you're referring to, but were they based on MJ alone, or could other substances have been involved?
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Post by JC on Jun 22, 2012 12:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by gridbug on Jun 22, 2012 12:35:39 GMT -5
The "other substances" in those stories is bath salts
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Post by JC on Jun 22, 2012 12:42:52 GMT -5
Toxicology report only states weed
"CBS4 News has also learned the preliminary toxicology report from Eugene’s autopsy revealed Eugene, 31, had been smoking marijuana near the time of the incident.
Investigators had hoped the initial tests might lead them to quickly identify other drugs Eugene might have taken which could have caused such psychotic behavior, but the law enforcement official said it will now be at least two months before all the lab work will be completed."
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Post by BlackFox on Jun 22, 2012 13:42:18 GMT -5
Toxicology report only states weed "CBS4 News has also learned the preliminary toxicology report from Eugene’s autopsy revealed Eugene, 31, had been smoking marijuana near the time of the incident. Investigators had hoped the initial tests might lead them to quickly identify other drugs Eugene might have taken which could have caused such psychotic behavior, but the law enforcement official said it will now be at least two months before all the lab work will be completed." I feel strongly enough in my position to gladly wager a friendly $20 that the final report will contain other, more violence inducing substances. It certainly will not be blamed on MJ.
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Post by Tsavodiner on Jun 24, 2012 20:12:45 GMT -5
We'll see if Mr. O has any relief in sight say, late September.
Until then, "O" well....
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Post by BlackFox on Jun 25, 2012 7:30:03 GMT -5
We'll see if Mr. O has any relief in sight say, late September. Until then, "O" well.... Don't you, as a conservative, agree that it should be a state issue? Actually, the biggest help may come this week from the Supremes. If they rule the individual mandate portion of the ACA an unconstitutional use of the Commerce Clause, it will surely set a nice precedent for challenging other spurious uses of the CC.
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Post by mikeydokey on Jun 25, 2012 22:36:35 GMT -5
I love it when democrats attempt to declare "states rights." LOL Turn in your card, you Commie.
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Post by BlackFox on Jun 27, 2012 16:50:17 GMT -5
Toxicology report only states weed "CBS4 News has also learned the preliminary toxicology report from Eugene’s autopsy revealed Eugene, 31, had been smoking marijuana near the time of the incident. Investigators had hoped the initial tests might lead them to quickly identify other drugs Eugene might have taken which could have caused such psychotic behavior, but the law enforcement official said it will now be at least two months before all the lab work will be completed." miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/medical-examiner-causeway-cannibal-not-high-on-bath-salts/ Well, I guess I should be glad you didn't take that bet. Marijuana ONLY in his system. Of course I was still right in saying it won't be blamed on marijuana. The article I read on Drudge twice mentioned that they are now left to look for some other cause for his behavior. Why don't they just blame pot?
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Post by Tsavodiner on Jul 12, 2012 2:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by BlackFox on Jul 12, 2012 7:55:05 GMT -5
Yep. More big government trampling on states rights.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jul 12, 2012 13:58:02 GMT -5
High THC levels.
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Post by BlackFox on Jul 12, 2012 15:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by ssmynkint on Jul 12, 2012 15:46:36 GMT -5
When yr not, yr not.
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Post by mikeydokey on Jul 14, 2012 6:15:59 GMT -5
Yep. More big government trampling on states rights. You mean like states rights as to whether or not they will allow local governments to start their municpal meetings with Christian prayers, or do you mean states rights for just the causes that you deem significant?
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Post by Half-Tard on Jul 14, 2012 13:42:28 GMT -5
Currently there is no testing for bath salts. That's why they can't say it was bath salts..
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Post by JC on Jul 14, 2012 13:50:02 GMT -5
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Post by Half-Tard on Jul 14, 2012 14:56:42 GMT -5
Can you show me in this story, that they used this test on the subject? It is not being used by Law Enforcement. That was a link to a home shopping network drug test kit. No bath salt testing was done on that man.
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Post by JC on Jul 14, 2012 15:07:26 GMT -5
lol
I'm sure the medical examiner didn't use a home test. I was simply showing you that there are in fact tests available for bath salts.
They preformed a full toxicology on him. From the story: "The much-anticipated toxicology report released by Miami-Dade Medical Examiner Dr. Bruce Hyma found marijuana in Eugene’s system, something CBS4 News had previously reported, but no evidence of any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs, or any adulterants found in street drugs.
The report said this includes cocaine, LSD, amphetamines (Ecstasy, Meth and others), phencyclidine (PCP or Angel Dust), heroin, oxycodone, Xanax, synthetic marijuana (Spice), and many other similar compounds.
Hyma’s office specifically ruled out bath salts, a class of synthetic drugs that have been known to cause bizarre behavior and overheating of people who use them, two things that made some believe Eugene’s cannibalistic behavior could be blamed on the drugs."
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Post by Tsavodiner on Jul 16, 2012 19:58:42 GMT -5
Yep. More big government trampling on states rights. I don't recall him asking the States before he released 276 crack dealers, reducing crack trafficking sentences an average of 136 months, one of whom returned to Chattanooga and committed murder within six months of his release. Seems funny he'd give CRACK dealers a break and NONE to the weed crowd; but of course this has NOTHING to do with race, it's about JUSTICE, which we must have, though the Heavens fall....
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Post by BlackFox on Jul 17, 2012 8:59:19 GMT -5
Yep. More big government trampling on states rights. I don't recall him asking the States before he released 276 crack dealers, reducing crack trafficking sentences an average of 136 months, one of whom returned to Chattanooga and committed murder within six months of his release. Sure he did Tsavo. The representatives of the 50 states voted on and passed the Fair Sentencing Act. Drug law reform, over the next several years, will not be initiated from within since our lawmakers are all bought off with special interest "speech". No, reform will be forced upon us from the outside. Other, more rational nations are wising up to the failure and futility of prohibition.
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Post by coffeeshooter on Jul 17, 2012 21:18:47 GMT -5
I don't know of anyone who died from an overdose of cannabis although I'm sure it is possible, rare but possible.
With rx overdoses you only need to follow the money. Talk about a multi-billion dollar industry that involves pharmaceutical, medical, retail and insurance corporations. Geesh.
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