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Post by Warkitty on Jul 2, 2012 17:00:28 GMT -5
What are you saying, you didn't get at least 80%?
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Post by JC on Jul 2, 2012 17:02:54 GMT -5
9/10
Even I believed one of the GOP's scary fables.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 2, 2012 18:32:53 GMT -5
Here, go take this test and when you get eight out of the ten questions correct we can probably talk intelligently about what Obamacare really means. Personally I would preferred if this had of been done the Romney way, at the state level, but I can live with what this legislation is going to do for now. And if you need to know, I scored 10 out of 10 the first time through. So what you are saying is that we can boil down a 2500 page bill into 10 questions. Now that is stupid. Yeah, but that's what you get when you elect lawyers to the legislature, verbose legislation. But those questions just represent the basics of the legislation and is geared toward dispelling misconceptions about the ACA.
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Post by rstewart on Jul 3, 2012 7:13:04 GMT -5
I too scored 10 out of 10 and I do not support the law. I just cannot support the government FORCING me to purchase anything, regardless of what it is. Nobody forces you to purchase auto insurance. If you do not have a automobile you do not need auto insurance. MILLIONs of people in NYC do not have auto insurance today.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 3, 2012 7:27:22 GMT -5
I don't know, rstewart, the government isn't compelling you to buy health insurance, they are just taxing you more if you don't. I kind of like the way Roberts justified the mandate. There are costs to the country when people aren't insured so this is just recouping that cost.
And those state sponsored exchanges are really cool. I don't understand why they have to be state sponsored but they make a lot more sense than individual policies.
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Post by osrb on Jul 3, 2012 8:28:33 GMT -5
I don't know, rstewart, the government isn't compelling you to buy health insurance, they are just taxing you more if you don't. I kind of like the way Roberts justified the mandate. There are costs to the country when people aren't insured so this is just recouping that cost. And those state sponsored exchanges are really cool. I don't understand why they have to be state sponsored but they make a lot more sense than individual policies. JT. How will they ( we) recoup the cost when it cost more to enforce then any type of savings?
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Post by Half-Tard on Jul 3, 2012 11:15:23 GMT -5
Could you explain this or provide a bi-partisan link that could explain this statement.
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Post by wheels on Jul 3, 2012 12:19:55 GMT -5
several reasons. although i do have health insurance, i don't feel that the government should tax me if i choose not to purchase it. i believe that it will harm many small businesses and stifle growth. i don't like the idea of another government bureaucracy that will most likely be rife with fraud and abuse. i'm leery of the unintended consequences of such a large piece of legislation. i don't like the fact that the bill was so large that most legislators surely were not able to read it. i know that our healthcare system needs improvement. there are issues that need to be addressed. i just don't think ACA is the answer.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 3, 2012 12:45:14 GMT -5
I don't know, rstewart, the government isn't compelling you to buy health insurance, they are just taxing you more if you don't. I kind of like the way Roberts justified the mandate. There are costs to the country when people aren't insured so this is just recouping that cost. And those state sponsored exchanges are really cool. I don't understand why they have to be state sponsored but they make a lot more sense than individual policies. JT. How will they ( we) recoup the cost when it cost more to enforce then any type of savings? I'm not convinced it will. What I know right now is that it has kept my 23 year old son with health insurance he wouldn't have had otherwise. I know that when the insurance exchanges come on line it will make health insurance a lot cheaper for people who don't have access to employer sponsored groups. I also think these exchanges will make it easier for people to strike out on their own rather than stick with jobs they hate due to insurance concerns. My two major concerns with the ACA from the beginning was the long term care portion of it that looked to me like it wasn't going to work and the fact that this was legislation that should be taken at the state level rather than the federal level. Well, the administration has killed the long term care portion due to not being able to make the numbers work so I'm left with not liking the fact that the federal government has passed legislation that I believe should have been done at the state level.
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