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Post by Gary on Jan 29, 2008 22:32:33 GMT -5
There's been a lot of strife over the past few days. It's time to clear the air and let you all know who it is who's been behind a very large portion of the chaos.
"EdBrown" is almost certainly a fake account for a local radio host with some serious issues with me and a few other people on this forum. Using his own PhotoBucket account to post photos was neither that bright, nor that sneaky. He can deny it, and likely will, but no one here is as stupid as he seems to think we are, and IP addresses and photo links are childishly easy to trace.
If he is reading this, do me and everyone else here a favor and just leave us alone. There is no reason why you have to spend so much time and energy trying to destroy something just because you have personal issues with me. It is sad that you cannot let go and move on.
On the same token, "Isabelle" was yet another one of Bret Hogan's accounts (nearly ten now that he has created under false pretenses). He is a classic troll with no class, no appreciation for what others have worked hard to create, and who only seems to enjoy causing pain and creating chaos.
Anything that he has said either on the Forum on through PM's was designed solely to create dissension and has little to no bearing on the truth. Don't fall into the troll trap. Bret is not your friend, and he is not wanting anything positive to happen.
These are the types of people that we deal with everyday behind the scenes. I am tired of being nice. I am tired of working my ass off to create a community of people who enjoy talking, laughing, debating, even crying with one another and having such incredibly negative people try to destroy it just because they have no joy in their own lives.
The Free Fire Zone is gone. For good. It once served a purpose, but has caused far more trouble than it's been worth for a long time. I thought I could allow people a place to let their hair down a bit without active moderation, and I was wrong. I refuse to let this forum descend into chaos and negativity just because of a few sad pathetic people.
The FFZ is not being closed because of one specific person - it is a cumulative thing, where I feel that it has long since served any positive or useful experience. Maybe at some time in the future, when the trolls have finally moved on to other targets for their immaturity, we can talk about reopening it.
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Post by gdc25 on Jan 29, 2008 22:42:45 GMT -5
Gary!
just for the record, I applaud you and all you've done here.
If it were me, I would just take my ball and go home.
Hoorah!
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Post by jaredrbyer on Jan 29, 2008 22:50:23 GMT -5
Gary! If it were me, I would just take my ball and go home. I am glad you didn't though Gary. I for one like playing with your ba..... Damn, I am glad I caught myself before finishing that sentence. I have a lot of fun on the forum, even though I am new here. The trolls suck though - I imagine with out them the would be almost no need for moderation at all.
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Post by gdc25 on Jan 29, 2008 22:55:37 GMT -5
damn... I know better than to drink and post.
I wasn't suggesting that he quit.. then what would I do when I have "my drink on"?
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Post by jaredrbyer on Jan 29, 2008 23:01:35 GMT -5
I know gdc25. I just took the opportunity to make a testicle joke and to thank Gary.
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Post by Kordax on Jan 29, 2008 23:06:52 GMT -5
I haven't followed any of the infantile problem posts (or the offending posters), but how about exercising some common sense out there even from the "common people" out there?
Gary (foolishly) doesn't make a dime off this community site given all his time & efforts on here & I know that he & the moderators try their best with behind the scenes PM's to inform people about acceptable v unacceptable forum protocol. There's no prohibition against debating & discussing ANYTHING I've ever noticed as vigorously as one wishes with a little common decency tossed in to the mix -- get with it, guys, this is the gold standard for every local, long-term, online community -- argue hard, sharpen your wits & play nice!
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Post by sugarcane on Jan 29, 2008 23:49:14 GMT -5
I guess I missed something. Damn. I hate it when I miss the drama. Admin'ing message boards is a pain in the ass. Do what you need to do, Gary. Most of us will understand.
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Post by Gary on Jan 30, 2008 0:03:53 GMT -5
Oh, and to make one thing very clear for the few folks that are still obsessed about it - here is the part of the Guidelines that everyone agreed to when they joined the forum:
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of ANY law.
Every single person who has been banned - a grand total of just 27 people in the past eight+ years - has violated that rule. The very thing they agreed to abide by. I have no sympathy for people who cannot participate in an online community without becoming abusive, without harrasing other members, without being hateful and so forth.
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Post by Longshot! [ Saint ] on Jan 30, 2008 17:01:25 GMT -5
My vision for the FFZ (my rants are on file) was a place where we could have unmoderated, unedited disagreements with perceived enemies (online, what a laugh) or contemporaries.
It lasted for a while, then instead of being a destination for Discussion Gone Heated, it became an area for people to start topics like 'Look at my PeePee Hair'.
I'm glad it's gone.
As for the rest? Cannon fodder. They can be glad one of the old Titans isn't here to wreak havoc upon those IP addresses they foolishly harang you from.
Feed 'em beans, Gary.
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Post by osrb on Jan 30, 2008 17:33:41 GMT -5
Damm I missed it. I had not been following the FFZ. It was a good idea but people could not be adult about it. I miss all the fun.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 30, 2008 18:09:46 GMT -5
I enjoyed it too much...it became a drug to me.
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Post by TNBear on Jan 30, 2008 19:54:38 GMT -5
OMG, LR actually admits to using/abusing a drug.
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Post by victoriasuzette on Jan 30, 2008 21:30:33 GMT -5
Mr. Bret must not have liked what I had to say to him last night: he sent some rather childishly derogatory messages to me and my daughter on MySpace today. It was the sort of thing you might expect from a 6 year old child. Good grief.
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Post by trueblue on Jan 30, 2008 22:22:02 GMT -5
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of ANY law. Does this mean that I can't call Tcrash an asshat or talk about his beastial relations with Riceman anymore? Edited for spelling mistake, not regret toward a bad statement about Tcrash or Riceman
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Post by tcrashfx on Jan 31, 2008 5:25:18 GMT -5
I vehemently deny the "asshat" allegation.
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Post by tncoaster37 on Jan 31, 2008 9:02:47 GMT -5
Hey Crash if the hat fits then wear it proudly since we all know that you are a asshole.
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Post by Gary on Jan 31, 2008 10:11:27 GMT -5
No, no, no, Coaster. Crash is an asshat, not an asshole.
Sheesh, get it right, will ya?
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Post by tcrashfx on Feb 1, 2008 5:17:16 GMT -5
Ass hole, ass hat or just plain ass makes no difference to me. I am proud to be any one of them. It is what I do. And I do it for free here.To be called an ass( anything) by KKKoaster is a badge of honor. Really.
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Post by tncoaster37 on Feb 1, 2008 8:51:45 GMT -5
Actually Crash, you are the lowest form of life. You are on the same level as Geezer.
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Post by joedog on Feb 1, 2008 9:57:04 GMT -5
Coaster I must admit, You got balls. Making attacks at an officer of the law, maybe the Bud Light Real Men of Genius will make a song about you.
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Post by tncoaster37 on Feb 1, 2008 10:09:10 GMT -5
Joe, I don't consider Crash to be an officer of the law but a punk who wears the badge. From what He has posted over the years, he has proven to be a very arrogant asshole who wants everyone to agree with him but attacks those who dares question him. I rather be a person who stands up to bullies than a follower who hides in fear of such.
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Post by xterragirl on Feb 1, 2008 10:27:31 GMT -5
You only stand up to so called bullies when it's convenient for you.
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Post by tncoaster37 on Feb 1, 2008 10:31:25 GMT -5
X, Crash is the most arrogant cop I know and he has proven it by the attacks on me and others who doesn't agree with him. Trust me, I have known quite a few cops when I was younger. The cops who do post here are the arrogant ones in which attack anyone who does cow down to them when they are questioned about anything.
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Post by Gary on Feb 1, 2008 10:32:50 GMT -5
How does one "cow down" to a cop? Or is that part of the whole, "Moooooove along" thing they like to say?
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Post by xterragirl on Feb 1, 2008 10:34:07 GMT -5
OMG Gary...you just about owed me a new monitor!
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Post by snarkalicious on Feb 1, 2008 11:07:57 GMT -5
I was always partial to "asswipe"
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Post by Diremaker on Feb 1, 2008 11:11:46 GMT -5
WOW... put THESE TWO together...
In ordur to show how smart I is, I is going to call sumone an asshol in the same thred where the turms of survise i agreed too says not two. (I think I just fried my spell checker)
As they always say, if you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Feb 1, 2008 11:53:21 GMT -5
"...Crash is the most arrogant cop I know..."
Now my feelings are hurt...
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Post by tncoaster37 on Feb 1, 2008 11:57:30 GMT -5
Hey Dire like I stated which only a few believe that this board has it's own clique and those who defends the cops view no matter what. In those who defend the cops so much only proves my point that much more in that whoever dares questions them gets attacked by the followers.
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Post by Diremaker on Feb 1, 2008 12:06:42 GMT -5
Quite frankly, I could give a damn less whether the cops think I'm on their side or not on here. you don't get enemies by disagreeing with people, I do it on here a lot. You get enemies by being a dumbass. You can say "I don't agree and here's why... etc. etc. etc.", or you can say, "You're a big dumbass that's wrong and you is always helping your buddies." One of those works better for general discussion than the other. Can you guess which one? No? See, that's why I said what I did. I have disagreed with tcrash before as well as the others, but I didn't have to call them names to do it. I don't resort to tactics like that until I'm sure it's the only thing you're minuscule mind will understand.... dumbass.
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