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Post by plasticone on May 18, 2007 23:17:38 GMT -5
"States that are quite vanilla ought not to be making the decisions for us," said Illinois House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, a Democrat. www.wcsh6.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=60844That statement was made in a comment about moving the Illinois Primary to February 5th. I am just wondering why there is not an outrage over such a blatantly racist remark from a politician. Would there be more of an outrage if they had said "States that are quite chocolate ought not to be making the decisions for us," said Illinois House Majority Leader Joe Schmo, a Republican.? Or are racist remarks from one side not as bad as racist remarks from the other? By the lack of reaction to this - and many similar remarks - it seems that many think racism is a one way street.
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Post by stray on May 19, 2007 6:21:00 GMT -5
In the eyes of the law (the way it's been crafted), the eyes of the media (the way it's been directed), and the eyes of the people (they way they've been indoctrinated), yes. It's a one-way street.
An extremely minor 'slip of the tongue' will cause national outrage if the 'slip-er' happens to be unfortunate enough to be a heterosexual white male...but as long as you're a 'protected species,' your speech is truly free.
I'm wondering what will happen when it's the turn of the white European-American male to be the minority (sooner rather than later.) Are we going to be able to 'line up to get our checks?' Will there be special subsidies? Will there be Affirmative Action and preferential treatment? Will there be quotas?
I mean...fair is fair, right? It's obviously the way the system 'works'....
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Post by Copperhead on May 19, 2007 21:32:32 GMT -5
Racism is repugnant from any quarter, regardless of the direction in which it is spewed.
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Post by Kordax on May 19, 2007 22:41:04 GMT -5
Racism is repugnant from any quarter, regardless of the direction in which it is spewed.
What if someone believes that his/her race is the best race, that it's superior to all others, but the holder of those beliefs doesn't belittle other races for their perceived inferiority?
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Post by Justin Thyme on May 20, 2007 6:51:21 GMT -5
Kordax, that is the most dangerous type of racist. That type of racist will never say a thing to indicate their proclivities but will consistantly discriminate against other racists in hiring, in purchasing, in education, in politics and in all other aspects of their lives.
That's what frustrates me about the Imus firing and other firings that have happened in the media over recent years. Most of these people have shown in their interactions with the races that they aren't racists, that these were just unfortunate choices of words or just ignorance about things. I think we would all be best served by observing peoples walk instead of listening to their talk.
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Post by stray on May 20, 2007 7:15:49 GMT -5
It is perfectly natural for creatures of like characteristics to prefer to associate with others of like characteristics and show preferential treatment towards them.
This happens in nature all the time - and we are wired the same way.
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Post by legaltender on May 20, 2007 11:18:33 GMT -5
Except for Al Sharpton. He shouldn't show preferential treatment.
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Post by Copperhead on May 21, 2007 8:10:22 GMT -5
It is perfectly natural for creatures of like characteristics to prefer to associate with others of like characteristics and show preferential treatment towards them. This happens in nature all the time - and we are wired the same way. Which is why I prefer to associate with intelligent people of diverse backgrounds who possess a well-honed sense of humor. I tolerate those who don't meet these characteristics until/unless they act ugly. After all, you can't pick your relatives.
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Post by tncoaster37 on May 21, 2007 8:20:46 GMT -5
JIT, if you look at nature. You will see animals of the same species getting together and you will never see them breeding outside thier species. The only way to get a cross-breed is for man to intervene and create it. That is the way it should be with man. It doesn't produce a better person to have parents of different races. IT only makes it weaker in the long run.
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Post by Copperhead on May 21, 2007 8:54:24 GMT -5
We're the same species, no matter what one's hair or skin look like. As a matter of fact, these variations of skin color (outside the Mediterranean region) are a result of inbreeding within a group.
This reminds me of the different breeds of dogs. They're all the same species and have similar reactions to various situations. Different breeds, however have particular characteristics and those are bred to either bring out or reduce the trait. Now when a chihuahua was crossbred with a terrier, it led to the creation of a totally different breed with its own strengths and weaknesses - the rat terrier. It was bred to create a dog that will hunt rodents (and it does this well). Further inbreeding for size led to the development of the toy rat terrier.
Is this what you are discussing, the variation between breeds of humans? If so, it seems that you are confused as to what constitutes a breed within a species. I'm curious to know exactly which breed you think you are?
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Post by stray on May 21, 2007 8:59:12 GMT -5
...and get this insanity...
People will go out of their way to ensure that the breeds of their ANIMALS remain pure and the best traits are brought to the forefront. The 'best bred' animals win awards and command an extremely high price and are considered the perfect examples of their breed...
...but many of those same people won't take the time to ensure their children live up to the same standards as their stupid dogs.
...wow.
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Post by Copperhead on May 21, 2007 11:20:26 GMT -5
What "purebreds" are there among humans? I'd like to know of a genetic line that hasn't had either a Roman, Germanic, middle-Eastern or Hun infiltrating it to some degree.
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Post by stray on May 21, 2007 11:22:29 GMT -5
The same can be said for the various breeds of animals, you know. If you go back through the records far enough, you won't be able to track down the very first cat, dog, or horse.
...that doesn't stop folks from trying to perfect the breeds today.
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Post by legaltender on May 21, 2007 11:41:38 GMT -5
Derek Jeter, Tiger Woods, Barack Obama and Jimi Hendrix are hardly defective humans.
I'd urge caution in rushing to embrace DNA technology when looking for ancestors.
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Post by gridbug on May 21, 2007 11:50:59 GMT -5
Silly crackers - you gotta be white to be a racist!
Good point on the dog/cat breeds. BTW - I do see that Copperhead's avatar isn't purebred...
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Post by Copperhead on May 21, 2007 12:00:52 GMT -5
No, he's not and he's an excellent hunter and extraordinarily patient with small children. He's earned the respect of any dog that tries to harrass him as well.
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Post by tncoaster37 on May 21, 2007 16:28:51 GMT -5
Actually, we aren't the same species. Homo sapien is the class name, the various skin colors depict the various species name. like Caucsian is one, negro is another, asianic is still other.
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Post by legaltender on May 21, 2007 18:19:49 GMT -5
Says who?
Homo is the genus and sapien is a species, of which modern humans are a sub-species.
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Post by Felix on May 22, 2007 9:21:33 GMT -5
And on the subject of purebred versus mongrel, perhaps googling heterosis or hybrid vigor would help inquiring minds like coaster's. There is a reason you see so many "black baldies" in pastures across the country (hereford/angus cross.)
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Post by Dreamwebber on May 22, 2007 10:16:39 GMT -5
TNcoaster, surely you don't believe that (Species/race) Homo Sapien is the species!!! We are all homo sapiens regardless of skin color. If we weren't we wouldn't be able to exchange organs for ex. Most scientists believe our first ancestors were from Africa. Not sure what skin color they were...and also it depends on whether you believe our species derived from Hominids (chimpanzee, gorilla etc) Racism is not a one way street IMO...everybody has some type of stereotype whether it be conscious or unconscious of people of other races and religions. That being said...I just think the author of the article is ignorant. The best way to solve the primary situation is to have all states vote on the same day. I do agree that those in Iowa and NH are not the best example of states that represent things that are important to all of us in the US but, IMO it is not because Iowa is "vanilla"
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Post by Copperhead on May 23, 2007 7:31:14 GMT -5
Well said, DW!
I do think, though, that Tncoaster really does believe what he wrote. He's a sad, but true example of ignorance and racism rolled into one.
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Post by b33fj3rky on May 23, 2007 9:01:10 GMT -5
JIT, if you look at nature. You will see animals of the same species getting together and you will never see them breeding outside thier species. The only way to get a cross-breed is for man to intervene and create it. That is the way it should be with man. It doesn't produce a better person to have parents of different races. IT only makes it weaker in the long run. DAMN STRAIGHT! You never see an orange cat humping a brown cat. Or a dog humping a human's leg. Amen, my white sister.
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Post by Dreamwebber on May 23, 2007 11:05:12 GMT -5
lol that is funny b33f. BTW Coaster if what you say is true (mixing races only makes weaker blah blah) then why is Tiger Wood one of the best golfers?
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Post by stray on May 23, 2007 11:48:26 GMT -5
...because in his mind, he visualizes it's a tiny bassketball.
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Post by Babs on May 25, 2007 0:05:09 GMT -5
Stray! That was funny! I can see how math could be a universal language...In fact, I think I was told that in school at some point. ll + ll = llll in any language. Sometimes l + l may equal lll, however.
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