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Post by el Gusano on Aug 18, 2009 19:47:48 GMT -5
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Scarlet&Gray
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Aug 18, 2009 20:39:50 GMT -5
AARP offers good health care, so they are leaving Why?
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Post by el Gusano on Aug 18, 2009 20:51:07 GMT -5
In opposition to AARP's stance on the socialized plan that the Obamabots are touting.
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Scarlet&Gray
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Aug 18, 2009 20:53:29 GMT -5
What's that gonna prove. They'll lose their AARP coverage and be on medicare. Yeah that's showing them..
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Post by doughlady on Aug 18, 2009 21:14:46 GMT -5
Seniors (65 and over) ARE on Medicare.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Aug 18, 2009 21:38:40 GMT -5
I signed up for AARP when I turned 50. I didn't renew my membership because they weren't offering anything I couldn't get without the membership for a similar cost.
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Scarlet&Gray
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Aug 18, 2009 22:23:01 GMT -5
I know and it makes me so angry................SOCIALISM..gotta stop.
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Post by el Gusano on Aug 18, 2009 23:03:10 GMT -5
If someone steals $1000 from you and you have an opportunity to get part of it back, are you going to, or will you just let it go? (Remember, thanks to the system put in place, it's almost impossible to just let it go.)
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Post by nic on Aug 19, 2009 4:53:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure I get this analogy.
For example, I pay taxes to Catoosa County. Does that count as them stealing money from me? I mean, I don't use their education system at the moment. So should I adopt a school age child just to get some of it back?
Maybe I could set my house on fire too, use some of that Fire Care going.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Aug 19, 2009 7:17:09 GMT -5
What are you getting for your tax dollars, Nic? If someone takes money from you without giving you a choice about it and you get nothing in return isn't that theft?
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Post by gridbug on Aug 19, 2009 7:38:07 GMT -5
What are you getting for your tax dollars, Nic? If someone takes money from you without giving you a choice about it and you get nothing in return isn't that theft? Which happens to be EXACTLY what happens with your federal tax dollars. This is nothing new. |
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Post by BlackFox on Aug 19, 2009 7:58:51 GMT -5
The bar for righteous indignation is being lowered to the floor lately. Nothing in the last few years compares to the level of crazy going on right now.
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Post by el Gusano on Aug 19, 2009 8:35:59 GMT -5
At the Federal level, if it's anything above and beyond what's legal (ie Constitutional, such as military) it's theft. At the state and local level, Justin described it well.
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Post by Felix on Aug 19, 2009 8:54:37 GMT -5
Justin queried: If someone takes money from you without giving you a choice about it* and you get nothing in return isn't that theft? If "someone" is the government (at any level) run by your elected representatives, no, that is not theft. As long as the right to vote, express your opinion, support candidates who think as you do all exist, that is government by the people. If you don't agree with the results of elections, work to persuade more of the people who think contrariwise to you of the superiority of your ideas. *as in right to vote. |
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Post by Felix on Aug 19, 2009 9:09:27 GMT -5
From an another article on this subject: About 60,000 senior citizens have quit AARP since July 1 due to the group's support for a health care overhaul, a spokesman for the organization said Monday.
The membership loss suggests dissatisfaction on the part of AARP members at a time when many senior citizens are concerned about proposed cuts to Medicare providers to help pay for making health care available for all. But spokesman Drew Nannis said it wasn't unusual for the powerful, 40 million-strong senior citizens' lobby to shed members in droves when it's advocating on a controversial issue.
AARP is strongly backing a health care overhaul, running ads to support it and hosting President Barack Obama at an online forum recently to promote his agenda to AARP members. However, the group has not endorsed a specific bill and says it won't support a plan that reduces Medicare benefits I don't know much about this American Seniors Association, but it looks like they have a ways to go to overtake AARP as the voice of senior citizens. |
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Post by el Gusano on Aug 19, 2009 18:08:14 GMT -5
I don't know much about this American Seniors Association, but it looks like they have a ways to go to overtake AARP as the voice of senior citizens. They're taking your advice and working on it. And when 51% of the people learn they can take the money away from the other 49% by a simple majority vote... A pure democracy is a pure tyranny. |
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Post by printemps on Aug 19, 2009 19:26:56 GMT -5
These people’s position is: “Don’t let anyone else have government-run health care like I have.”
It’s beyond ironic.
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Post by gridbug on Aug 20, 2009 7:07:21 GMT -5
These people’s position is: “Don’t let anyone else have government-run health care like I have.” It’s beyond ironic. Like Congresspeople and Senators? |
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