Post by dutch on Sept 20, 2009 11:35:44 GMT -5
I usually stay away from the Debate Lounge. It’s not good for the blood pressure. But last night I was bored.
In Answer to the original question, “Would it be OK …..”. In the 70s and 80s all white communities like this were considered enclaves, encampments, compounds, etc. I visited one in the mid 70s in western Missouri. They had their own Church, School and General Store. Sunday, after church, everyone had lunch then retired to the firing range. While the men were shooting, their wives and children were reloading magazines. Please keep in mind, at this time, a lot of people suffered from the “Red Dawn Syndrome”. But, of course, this scenario could never happen, 9-11 proved that. All these groups were labeled Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Klan, Cults and the most terrible of all, “Survivalists”. They were persecuted by the law, mostly the ATF, with warrants for “Federal Firearms Violations” and, if there were children present “Child Abuse”. (“Hmmmm, by the scratches on this Model 60 Marlin-Glenfield it appears that some one has tried to alter it to full auto.”) Sometimes they would have a warrant for an individual, whether they were present or not, to gain access to Private Property. Afterwards they would return with warrants for other items they may have seen during the “investigation”. The Branch Davidians were mentioned, earlier. In this case the ATF had a warrant for David Koresh. This man went jogging every morning on a public road where they could have snatched him at anytime, no muss, no fuss. But the ATF wanted to make an example of this case and chose to serve the warrant while he was in the compound. Granted, Koresh was unstable and the ATF was well aware of this. (for more info see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege) The resulting siege and battle resulted in the fiery death 75 men, women and children. This is called “Collateral Damage”. There were many more incidents like this that I will not go into. To sum all this up; No, these communities were not tolerated by Law Enforcement Officials.
Food for thought. If you are not familiar with the term “Collateral Damage, look it up. Then watch a movie titled “The Long Kiss Goodnight" and pay close attention to the part about “Terrorist Activities”. Then remember Collateral Damage, Wako, Oklahoma City and the Twin Towers. A means to an end?
In Answer to the original question, “Would it be OK …..”. In the 70s and 80s all white communities like this were considered enclaves, encampments, compounds, etc. I visited one in the mid 70s in western Missouri. They had their own Church, School and General Store. Sunday, after church, everyone had lunch then retired to the firing range. While the men were shooting, their wives and children were reloading magazines. Please keep in mind, at this time, a lot of people suffered from the “Red Dawn Syndrome”. But, of course, this scenario could never happen, 9-11 proved that. All these groups were labeled Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Klan, Cults and the most terrible of all, “Survivalists”. They were persecuted by the law, mostly the ATF, with warrants for “Federal Firearms Violations” and, if there were children present “Child Abuse”. (“Hmmmm, by the scratches on this Model 60 Marlin-Glenfield it appears that some one has tried to alter it to full auto.”) Sometimes they would have a warrant for an individual, whether they were present or not, to gain access to Private Property. Afterwards they would return with warrants for other items they may have seen during the “investigation”. The Branch Davidians were mentioned, earlier. In this case the ATF had a warrant for David Koresh. This man went jogging every morning on a public road where they could have snatched him at anytime, no muss, no fuss. But the ATF wanted to make an example of this case and chose to serve the warrant while he was in the compound. Granted, Koresh was unstable and the ATF was well aware of this. (for more info see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege) The resulting siege and battle resulted in the fiery death 75 men, women and children. This is called “Collateral Damage”. There were many more incidents like this that I will not go into. To sum all this up; No, these communities were not tolerated by Law Enforcement Officials.
Food for thought. If you are not familiar with the term “Collateral Damage, look it up. Then watch a movie titled “The Long Kiss Goodnight" and pay close attention to the part about “Terrorist Activities”. Then remember Collateral Damage, Wako, Oklahoma City and the Twin Towers. A means to an end?