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Post by el Gusano on Sept 13, 2009 21:00:47 GMT -5
Check it out!
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Post by goomba on Sept 13, 2009 21:21:56 GMT -5
the park service is estimating that there was up to 2 MILLION Tea party participants!
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 13, 2009 21:29:18 GMT -5
DC police early estimates were 1.2 million.
CNN reported 50-60 people gathered. (That's not true. I just thought it was funny. CNN didn't report a protest.)
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 13, 2009 21:30:56 GMT -5
You know, that's 1 out of every 150 people in the USA at that rally! (Not counting illegals, of course.) We had several from Homer there.
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Post by printemps on Sept 13, 2009 23:52:01 GMT -5
DC police early estimates were 1.2 million. No such police estimates exist.
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 14, 2009 1:34:23 GMT -5
Funny, but most of the world disagrees with you. That was their estimate when they shut down the roads and still had buses that were full of people, but their permit ran out at 4 PM. DC police estimated 1.2 million (and may be upping that estimate; they had planned on 500,000, and had to keep calling in more and more cops, but I'm sure you're smarter than they are), Parks & Rec were estimating 1.2 million at 12:30, and aerial photos showed the area to be more full than with LBJ's inauguration, which was 1.2 million, and there was much less trash than after Soetero's inauguration. People were there from all 57 states. I'm surprised they didn't deploy LRAD's like they did at the town hall meetings. (They probably did, just no photos have surfaced yet.) ACORN was there assaulting people and getting booted out, too. Maybe they had 1.5 million and the tea party only had a few thousand. That would make you happier. Great Pic HereGreat photos and videos here.
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Post by gridbug on Sept 14, 2009 6:55:25 GMT -5
Why don't they have a good attendance number? It should have been simple enough to count the birth certificates as they checked them.
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Post by printemps on Sept 14, 2009 8:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by BlackFox on Sept 14, 2009 9:26:13 GMT -5
and there was much less trash than after Soetero's inauguration. I guess they were through with this flag.
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Post by Jay on Sept 14, 2009 9:40:54 GMT -5
They didn't even spell Glenn Beck's name right! heheh
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Post by Justin Thyme on Sept 14, 2009 9:46:07 GMT -5
The teabaggers have been marginalized in the press and by most of the politicians. While I can't necessarily get behind this group I am very amused that the media and the politicians may be coming to the realization that this group could possibly be much, much larger controlling many, many more votes than they ever thought.
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Post by sargonkiadi on Sept 14, 2009 10:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by Justin Thyme on Sept 14, 2009 10:34:58 GMT -5
The 2 million estimate that has been thrown out was definitely overstated and is going to be used once again to marginalize this group. But even at 70,000 this is one of the larger demonstrations to hit Washington in recent years. Jamie Dupree had this to say about the protest: I have covered a lot of marches and protests at the Capitol, and this weekend's Tea Party protest had to give organizers a big smile, as tens of thousands of people turned out in Washington, D.C.
You could tell it was big when the police shut off access to the lawn on the West Front of the Capitol soon after 11am, because there were too many people there.
That pushed more and more people onto the National Mall, as the crowd stretched back from the Capitol a few blocks.
No, it didn't match the crowds from the Inauguration this year, but it certainly ranks up there as one of the larger protests that I've covered.
Was anyone listening? Most Democrats probably were not.
Then again, most Republicans probably tuned out as well when thousands of anti-war demonstrators came here about Iraq.
But that doesn't diminish their rally or their message.
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Regardless of what the Democrats want you to believe this group will have a say on the makeup of congress next year. Don't marginalize them, listen to them. They, too, are Americans and their concerns need to be answered.
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Post by frayne on Sept 14, 2009 10:40:24 GMT -5
The million moron march !
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 14, 2009 12:42:20 GMT -5
The fire department estimate was pretty early in the morning, and since when did the fire department start doing estimates? The police department estimate came after they realized their crew for only 500,000 was insufficient and they had to start calling in many, many more reinforcements. The reasonable estimates ranged from 600,000 to 2,000,000, with the ones being considered most reliable between 1 and 1.5 million. The fire department estimate was pretty early in the morning, and since when did the fire department start doing estimates? The police department estimate came after they realized their crew for only 500,000 was insufficient and they had to start calling in many, many more reinforcements. The reasonable estimates ranged from 600,000 to 2,000,000, with the ones being considered most reliable between 1 and 1.5 million. Post Soetero inauguration 2009: Post TEA party 2009:
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Post by printemps on Sept 14, 2009 13:34:08 GMT -5
The DC Fire Dept crowd estimate came after the event ended. Who can say how it was made. Experience, probably.
There never was a police estimate....nada, none. Nor U.S. Park Service.
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 14, 2009 13:39:10 GMT -5
The fire department estimate is what ABC quoted in its article that was misquoted in a speech at the rally. It couldn't be at the end of the day if it was in the article early in the day, now could it?
And I'm sure DC police just randomly called in more people.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Sept 14, 2009 14:57:44 GMT -5
The exact number seems to be in the way of getting the point to those marginalizing this movement.
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Post by Conservator on Sept 14, 2009 15:05:03 GMT -5
amen. I don't care about the # attending... I care about the # of Americans fed up with the Fed Gov. I care about the mainstream media downplaying everything that is anti-Obama. Even you team players on the left should be weary of such a slanted media... You may agree with them on some things, but you surely won't on everything... It may be good for ratings, but it's not good for America.
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Post by doughlady on Sept 14, 2009 15:52:10 GMT -5
What is the definition now of "mainstream'? Isn't Fox New mainstream? By the amount of viewers they claim to have, Fox is "mainstream." Fox is definitely playing up every weakness (and the weaknesses are almost too numerous to count) just as Fox ignored many of the weaknesses of the Bush administration.
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Post by printemps on Sept 14, 2009 16:47:31 GMT -5
The fire department estimate is what ABC quoted in its article that was misquoted in a speech at the rally. It couldn't be at the end of the day if it was in the article early in the day, now could it? And I'm sure DC police just randomly called in more people. First, no crowd estimate was made by DC police, U.S. Capitol Police or U.S. Park Service. ABC's late-in-the-day rebuttal didn't say the DC Fire Department's estimate was what had been misquoted from the stage. A fabricated, Tweeted rumor during the rally clearly metastasised. Michelle Malkin: She walked it all back as did others. michellemalkin.com/2009/09/12/celebrating-the-912-rallies/
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Post by Justin Thyme on Sept 14, 2009 17:10:57 GMT -5
Printemps, can we agree there were a whole lot more people there than anybody thought there would be?
Oh, and Blackfox, the story is that security was making people throw away their flags to get into the area because of the security risk of the the little flag poles. Somebody could have gotten an eye put out.
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Sept 14, 2009 20:11:58 GMT -5
AP estimated 50,000 to 60,000. 1000 don't tread on me flags. One handwritten sign saying Obama is Black
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Post by Jay on Sept 15, 2009 11:35:47 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 15, 2009 13:57:38 GMT -5
Funny. I've only seen that picture posted on the pro-Marxist attack sites.
On the pro-freedom sites, I've only seen pictures of the LIVE FEED of that day, except for a few from past crowds to show for comparison.
Seems they're not getting to steal our money as easily as they thought after electing the Obamessiah, so they're having to change their lies.
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Post by Jay on Sept 15, 2009 14:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 15, 2009 14:31:34 GMT -5
And I wonder who duped them?
The thieves who want to discredit them or the ones who had the live feed they could have sent?
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Sept 15, 2009 14:39:27 GMT -5
THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER This one is a little different... Two Different Versions! Two Different Morals!
OLD VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.
MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!
MODERN VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.
CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.
How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'
Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant 's house where the news stations film the group singing, 'We shall overcome.' Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.
Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.
Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.
The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government..
The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it.
The ant has disappeared in the snow.
The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood.
MORAL OF THE STORY: You get what you vote for!
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Post by Jay on Sept 15, 2009 14:59:20 GMT -5
And I wonder who duped them? The thieves who want to discredit them or the ones who had the live feed they could have sent? It was a lie from the tea party people.. Just like the lie that there were 2 million people there...
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Post by el Gusano on Sept 15, 2009 22:12:09 GMT -5
Evidence or innuendo?
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