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Post by el Gusano on Nov 24, 2009 15:33:24 GMT -5
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Nov 24, 2009 15:44:30 GMT -5
Nobody likes a sitting president for very long. I will say this again (third time)...within the first 18 months, President Obama will lose most of his supporters. He will be unelectable after his first term (assuming we're still allowed to hold elections at that point).
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Post by gridbug on Nov 24, 2009 16:07:32 GMT -5
The only "approval poll" that counts is Election Day. President Obama will likely get another term unless the Republicans find a candidate that can do the job. I think most Americans realized McCain simply was not up to the job.  The Electorial College took away your vote long before President Obama was elected. |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Nov 24, 2009 17:02:17 GMT -5
The only "approval poll" that counts is Election Day. President Obama will likely get another term unless the Republicans find a candidate that can do the job. I think most Americans realized McCain simply was not up to the job. Well, they have Palin going for them. Now that she isn't held back by McCain handlers she can really show this country what she's made of. Personally, though, I think it's time for an Independent to become president. Someone who owes no one anything. Someone like Clark Howard. The Electoral College is the only thing keeping this country from mob rule. |
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Nov 24, 2009 17:24:27 GMT -5
I'd vote for him. I hope The Alaskan Barbie doll wins the primary (she won't). That will solidify President Obama's re-election.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Nov 25, 2009 15:29:38 GMT -5
She STILL has more experience in government that the President has.
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Post by gridbug on Nov 25, 2009 15:47:01 GMT -5
She STILL has more experience in government that the President has. Only if you count the positions she started, not the terms she completed.  |
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Nov 25, 2009 16:59:10 GMT -5
The mayor of Wasilla pop.5000. yeah your right. Proven quitter. That's who'll get my vote.
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Post by Warkitty on Nov 25, 2009 19:23:47 GMT -5
Clark Howard?
I LIKE it.
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Post by davrik on Nov 25, 2009 20:11:59 GMT -5
The idiot Republicans had a candidate - Ron Paul. But, they were afraid of him going by the constitution a little too much, and being a fiscal conservative, and busting up their fat-cat banking buddies at the Federal Reserve.
They got what they deserved.
See ya in 3 years.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 13, 2009 13:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on Dec 13, 2009 14:56:24 GMT -5
Only one that matters is November 2012. If I was a wing nut I'd be searching for someone to run because right now the cupboard is empty, Go ahead keep playing the blame game seems to be working for ya.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Dec 13, 2009 16:25:33 GMT -5
I have a feeling the Republicans will do exactly as the Democrats did while trying to unseat George W. Bush. Who knows though, maybe they will put up someone like Michael E. Bannister; VP of Ford Motor Co. and Chairman and CEO of Ford Motor Credit.
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 13, 2009 16:37:45 GMT -5
She STILL has more experience in government that the President has. There are only two people in the world with more experience than Obama at being President of the U.S that can run for the job. Next go around he'll have 4 years experience on the job. That experience card will be useless next election cycle. |
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Post by printemps on Dec 13, 2009 16:38:55 GMT -5
Who knows though, maybe they will put up someone like Michael E. Bannister; VP of Ford Motor Co. and Chairman and CEO of Ford Motor Credit. Anybody making $8,677,747.00/year would be an ideal GOP nominee. |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Dec 13, 2009 18:06:52 GMT -5
He is one of the primary reasons that Ford didn't have to file bankruptcy. I think he would make a great administrator for this country. He definitely earned his $8,677,747. I have no idea what his political affiliation is. Either side would do good to run him as president.
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 13, 2009 19:15:45 GMT -5
I have no idea what his political affiliation is. Either side would do good to run him as president. The country needs more people to make statements like this. |
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Post by printemps on Dec 13, 2009 20:04:10 GMT -5
He is one of the primary reasons that Ford didn't have to file bankruptcy. Sure seem to be plenty of articles naming Mark Fields as the turnaround hero at Ford. Nevertheless, closing more than a dozen plants and slashing 48% of the salaried and hourly workforce in North America is a good time for a EVP to hold his compensation under $8.7 million. Where did Bannister's name cross your radar? |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Dec 14, 2009 7:50:14 GMT -5
When the big three came to Washington to see what the government could do for them I started doing some personal research to find out why Ford was in a much better position than GM or Chrysler. His name came up in a number of articles that I found giving good marks to Ford Motor Credit. From what I was reading Ford seemed to be able to maintain a relatively decent cash position considering everything else based largely on the way Ford Motor Credit was being run.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Dec 14, 2009 10:05:50 GMT -5
"Next go around he'll have 4 years experience on the job."
He will also have his abysmal record, which will cancel any experience credit.
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 14, 2009 10:25:12 GMT -5
"Next go around he'll have 4 years experience on the job." He will also have his abysmal record, which will cancel any experience credit. It may be abysmal. Whether or not it's abysmal to liberals and independents it's what matters to him. I'm pretty sure he already knows he's not going to get your vote. If the Republican party, or a viable third party, could run a fiscal conservative that isn't a religious fundamentalist, and doesn't try legislate morality, they would probably have my vote. Sort of a Ron Paul light. Speaking of Ron Paul, out of all the candidates from the Republican primaries last year, the one that everybody labeled crazy is turning out to be more right than any of the others. |
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Dec 14, 2009 10:33:08 GMT -5
"...is turning out to be more right than any of the others."
The righter the better?
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 14, 2009 10:42:34 GMT -5
"...is turning out to be more right than any of the others." The righter the better? No, not right-wing, just right. The Republican party thinks it can win America back by moving even further to the right. I think they are wrong about that. Fiscal conservatism is definitely the way to go, but socially you guys are way behind the times. Society itself is much more liberal now. |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Dec 14, 2009 10:53:00 GMT -5
Both sides better meet me in the middle if either of them wants my support. Next election I will not vote for an incumbent. In my neck of the woods that means I'll either be voting for Democrats, Libertarians or Independents. I can't stand Democrats any better than Republicans and the Libertarians usually put up someone that would make Art Bell's guest seem reasonable and sane.
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 14, 2009 11:05:14 GMT -5
Exactly Justin. The overwhelming majority of people I meet these days describe themselves as Fiscally Conservative, and Socially Liberal. I know I certainly do. Shrink the government and leave me alone.
Gay and wanna get married? Fine. Want special rights? Sorry. Wanna have an abortion? It should be up to the individual states. Wanna get high? It's a state issue, and the federal government has no business in it.
A third party probably won't have any luck. I guess we either need a Republican from a blue state, or a Democrat from a red state.
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Post by gridbug on Dec 14, 2009 14:45:42 GMT -5
But Ford didn't go broke. Wouldn't someone from GM be more appropriate for this country?
The Electorial College makes sure the statement "viable third party" is an oxymoronic statement. As for Republicans, for the most part they never seem to care any more for fiscal conservatism than Democrats.
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