Sponsor of gun-in-bars bill arrested on gun, DUI c

[Justin Thyme]

Irony. Sweet, sweet irony.

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Sponsor of gun-in-bars bill arrested on gun, DUI charges

A Tennessee lawmaker who was the lead sponsor of a law allowing permit holders to bring guns into bars has been arrested on DUI charges and possession of a gun while under the influence, The Tennessean reports.

Rep. Curry Todd, a Republican state representative from Collierville, was stopped by police in Nashville on Tuesday, failed a roadside sobriety test and refused to take a breathalyzer, according to court documents.

The newspaper says a loaded Smith & Wesson 38 Special was found in a holster stuffed between the driver's seat and the center console.

"The subject was obviously very impaired and not in any condition to be carrying a loaded handgun,' 'the arresting officer says in his report.

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I would like to point out that the bill Todd sponsored would not make his behavior legal. This is just so very ironic.

[Tsavodiner]

If you can't practice what you preach, either quit preaching or quit practicing.

[Half-Tard]

Don't drink and drive...

[osrb]

Looks like this guy thinks is above the law just like most politicians.

[professorx]

Oct 12, 2011 11:49:49 GMT -5 Justin Thyme said:

Irony. Sweet, sweet irony.

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Sponsor of gun-in-bars bill arrested on gun, DUI charges

A Tennessee lawmaker who was the lead sponsor of a law allowing permit holders to bring guns into bars has been arrested on DUI charges and possession of a gun while under the influence, The Tennessean reports.

The newspaper says a loaded Smith & Wesson 38 Special was found in a holster stuffed between the driver's seat and the center console.

"The subject was obviously very impaired and not in any condition to be carrying a loaded handgun,' 'the arresting officer says in his report.

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I would like to point out that the bill Todd sponsored would not make his behavior legal. This is just so very ironic.

Sounds like he did not take his gun into the bar. He violated the plain ol' DUI law. I am not sure why someone would want to take a gun into a bar unless they were a designated driver, or it was a Outback type resturant bar where they were going to eat food and not have alcohol.

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[Justin Thyme]

I am not sure why someone would want to take a gun into a bar unless they were a designated driver, or it was a Outback type resturant bar where they were going to eat food and not have alcohol.

It's my understanding that the last example was what the bill was written for. Most restaurants serve alcohol and for someone with a carry permit who normally carry this would require leaving the weapon in the car. A lot of cars get broken into in restaurant parking lots. It was spun by those against carrying guns as a bill to allow carrying a gun in a honky tonk. That was not the intent and, I think, the bill would not allow carrying in an establishment that served mostly alcohol.

[goomba]

JiT, you are correct. In the first law you could not carry in bar that only sold alcohol, but you could in resturaunts, like chili's or applebee's. that law was ruled unconstitutional by a nashville judge. the current law allows carry in any establishment that serves alcohol for consumption on premises, as long as the permit holder is not consuming alcohol.

It was never about being able to carry in a 'honky tonk' or a 'park & stab' type establishment

[TNBear]

I might carry in an Applebees or Chiles on the off chance that upper management could appear and I could deal with them. As that is unlikely why bother. Guns are heavy.

[goomba]

carrying a concealed handgun is meant to be comforting, not comfortable.

[professorx]

Oct 22, 2011 6:36:48 GMT -5 goomba said:

carrying a concealed handgun is meant to be comforting, not comfortable.

There are too many styles of holsters and too many styles of pistols for conceal carry to not be comfortable. If a person is not comfortable, they have the wrong setup.

I saw a guy at Walmart yesterday with an open carry setup. No one said anything to him. I assume he was a deer-hunter who forgot to take his pistol off before he stopped by Walmart.

[Justin Thyme]

Oct 21, 2011 20:30:05 GMT -5 TNBear said:

I might carry in an Applebees or Chiles on the off chance that upper management could appear and I could deal with them. As that is unlikely why bother. Guns are heavy.

Personally, I'd rather people with guns carried them with them into Applebee's or Chili's rather than leave them in the car where they could be stolen.

[professorx]

Oct 23, 2011 14:34:50 GMT -5 Justin Thyme said:

Oct 21, 2011 20:30:05 GMT -5 TNBear said:

I might carry in an Applebees or Chiles on the off chance that upper management could appear and I could deal with them. As that is unlikely why bother. Guns are heavy.

Personally, I'd rather people with guns carried them with them into Applebee's or Chili's rather than leave them in the car where they could be stolen.

Nice lockboxes can be purchased.

www.botachtactical.com/frariipica.html

Let's say you go on vacation, the kids want to go to Disneyworld. You have to lock your pistol somewhere. At a certain point everyone has to secure their pistol. Lock boxes are nice to have and not that expensive.

[Justin Thyme]

Oct 24, 2011 21:49:22 GMT -5 professorx said:

Oct 23, 2011 14:34:50 GMT -5 Justin Thyme said:

Personally, I'd rather people with guns carried them with them into Applebee's or Chili's rather than leave them in the car where they could be stolen.

Nice lockboxes can be purchased.

www.botachtactical.com/frariipica.html

Let's say you go on vacation, the kids want to go to Disneyworld. You have to lock your pistol somewhere. At a certain point everyone has to secure their pistol. Lock boxes are nice to have and not that expensive.

I agree, every one will need to secure their weapon at some point and a lock box is inexpensive. I don't see that as a reason for preventing someone from legally carrying in O'Charlie's while allowing them to legally carry in Wendy's. Do you?

[osrb]

True JT what many of these anti gun people do not understand is that we are not worried about something happening while eating in the restaurant it is the walk to and from our vehicle where the danger lies. Most robberies occur while people are walking to of from their vehicle. In these cases if you leave your carry weapon in your car it does no good.

[goomba]

its also not a very good feeling to come out of a resturaunt and have you car stolen. then think about if you had your firearm locked in it, when it could have been on you...

[BlackFox]

All that fear is gonna give you guys ulcers.

[Justin Thyme]

Oct 25, 2011 13:49:34 GMT -5 BlackFox said:

All that fear is gonna give you guys ulcers.

There is no fear here. But then I don't carry a gun, either. I've always figured that if I really needed one I'd just take yours.

Still, I like laws to make sense and be consistent. If it's okay to carry a gun, with a permit, into one restaurant then you should be able to carry a gun in all restaurants if eating is all your planning on doing. I'd rather you carry your gun with you, if you have your carry permit, than leave it somewhere that a thief could easily take it.

[BlackFox]

Oct 25, 2011 14:00:00 GMT -5 Justin Thyme said:

Oct 25, 2011 13:49:34 GMT -5 BlackFox said:

All that fear is gonna give you guys ulcers.

There is no fear here. But then I don't carry a gun, either. I've always figured that if I really needed one I'd just take yours.

Still, I like laws to make sense and be consistent. If it's okay to carry a gun, with a permit, into one restaurant then you should be able to carry a gun in all restaurants if eating is all your planning on doing. I'd rather you carry your gun with you, if you have your carry permit, than leave it somewhere that a thief could easily take it.

Most of the thugs that rob people in parking lots are complete idiots. I figure I'll just use the Jedi mind trick on them or something.

Seriously though, the odds of being robbed in public are pretty long. Since I usually like to have a few drinks when I go out, I think I'll just leave my guns at home and not live in fear of the guy with a 75 IQ.

[professorx]

I agree, every one will need to secure their weapon at some point and a lock box is inexpensive. I don't see that as a reason for preventing someone from legally carrying in O'Charlie's while allowing them to legally carry in Wendy's. Do you?

I agree. I have no problem with folks carrying concealed. The lock box is if you need to lock a pistol up. Say you want a beer, lock up the pistol... or not and take your chances.

[TNBear]

I will be 60 years old tomorrow morning and have never been accosted in any manner that made me wish I had a firearm on me. Perhaps being a bit larger than average and not looking prosperous at all helps.

[ssmynkint]

And smell. Don't forget the smell. Down wind, boy!

[osrb]

Oct 25, 2011 21:06:26 GMT -5 TNBear said:

I will be 60 years old tomorrow morning and have never been accosted in any manner that made me wish I had a firearm on me. Perhaps being a bit larger than average and not looking prosperous at all helps.

Well you are a lucky one. I have been mugged a gun point and I will do what I need to. I am not a small person either.

[Warkitty]

Not by any stretch of the imagination.


I've had a gang banger dry fire a gun at me while I was walking my dog. No mugging, no reason, he just thought it was funny. I started carrying in that area every time I walked my dog. Figured if the twit tried it again I'd show him what happens when it's chambered.

[TNBear]

So you would shoot and injure or kill someone for that?

[Justin Thyme]

Oct 26, 2011 19:27:06 GMT -5 TNBear said:

So you would shoot and injure or kill someone for that?

You would not shoot back at someone pointing a gun and pulling the trigger at you!?! I don't carry a gun, never have except traveling to and from a firing range, but those circumstances would entice me to start and the next person pointing a gun at me would have me firing back, not to injure but to kill. If you wait to see if they are dry firing or not you have waited too long.

[Tsavodiner]

Oct 26, 2011 19:27:06 GMT -5 TNBear said:

So you would shoot and injure or kill someone for that?

yep

[Tsavodiner]

Oct 25, 2011 21:06:26 GMT -5 TNBear said:

I will be 60 years old tomorrow morning and have never been accosted in any manner that made me wish I had a firearm on me. Perhaps being a bit larger than average and not looking prosperous at all helps.

"Put your red dress on,
fix your hair up pretty
and meet me tonight
in Atlantic City..."
--The Band.

[goomba]

Oct 26, 2011 19:27:06 GMT -5 TNBear said:

So you would shoot and injure or kill someone for that?

Yes, it is a threat upon your life, I would have shot him. you shoot to stop the threat, which may result in the aggressors receiving serious injury that "may" result in his death.

[Warkitty]

Exactly. It was sheer luck it was not chambered. However, it was definitely a threat to my and my dog's life and I had every reason to believe that gun POINTING AT ME and BEING FIRED was an attempt to kill me.

For all I know, it was simply misfiring.


Are you saying if someone pointed a gun at you and fired it, you would NOT consider that a reason to shoot back? You would NOT consider that a threat to your life? Shit man, what does it take for you to recognize a real and present danger to someone's life? Running them over? Actually killing them? What?

[professorx]

Oct 26, 2011 21:26:06 GMT -5 Warkitty said:

Exactly. It was sheer luck it was not chambered. However, it was definitely a threat to my and my dog's life and I had every reason to believe that gun POINTING AT ME and BEING FIRED was an attempt to kill me.

For all I know, it was simply misfiring.


Are you saying if someone pointed a gun at you and fired it, you would NOT consider that a reason to shoot back? You would NOT consider that a threat to your life? Shit man, what does it take for you to recognize a real and present danger to someone's life? Running them over? Actually killing them? What?

You are the luckiest person in the world. I would guess that this person have every intention in the world of shooting at you. This person either did not know how to operate a firearm properly, or had shitty ammo. Either way, you are very lucky.