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Post by Justin Thyme on Dec 2, 2011 14:10:21 GMT -5
Study shows medical marijuana laws reduce traffic deaths Lead to lower alcohol consumption11/29/2011 DENVER – A groundbreaking new study shows that laws legalizing medical marijuana have resulted in a nearly nine percent drop in traffic deaths and a five percent reduction in beer sales. “Our research suggests that the legalization of medical marijuana reduces traffic fatalities through reducing alcohol consumption by young adults,” said Daniel Rees, professor of economics at the University of Colorado Denver who co-authored the study with D. Mark Anderson, assistant professor of economics at Montana State University. The researchers collected data from a variety of sources including the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, and the Fatality Analysis Reporting System. The study is the first to examine the relationship between the legalization of medical marijuana and traffic deaths. ( Continued)
If smoking dope reduces alcohol consumption in young adults and if reduced alcohol consumption due to increased dope smoking reduces traffic fatalities then it follows that dope smoking doesn't impair one's driving abilities to the extent alcohol consumption does.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 21:13:26 GMT -5
I figure mari-ju-ana is going to turn out like prohibition of alcohol.
Sooner or later, people are going to legalize it, and after some years, others will look back at what's been going on for the last few decades and wonder why pot was ever illegal and outlawed in the first place.
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Post by TNBear on Dec 3, 2011 10:47:08 GMT -5
A hint: Black jazz musicians, you may place the emphasis on "Black".
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 3, 2011 13:35:16 GMT -5
Let's legalize for 10 years and then do a cost/benefit compared to the last decades policies. We can then make an informed decision going forward. Also hemp.
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Post by Tsavodiner on Dec 3, 2011 17:12:20 GMT -5
I'm all for it; it'll help us through the stupendous tax increases and diminished standard of living
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Post by frayne56 on Dec 4, 2011 6:43:44 GMT -5
Legalize it and tax it, end of story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2011 10:39:22 GMT -5
You forgot, "Grow it."
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Post by Police Moderator on Dec 4, 2011 18:21:17 GMT -5
That is the government's job and it is a right under the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution... "The Right to Process, Dude."
Or was that "Due Process?"
Nevermind, and pass the Doritos. ;D
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Dec 5, 2011 18:18:36 GMT -5
Dope heads.
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Post by TNBear on Dec 6, 2011 20:31:36 GMT -5
LR, you are nothing if not predictable on this subject.
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Post by professorx on Dec 6, 2011 22:20:58 GMT -5
I thought about this today. I've come to the realization the problem is not dope, but the people who use dope. Maybe the drug use is a symptom, not the cause of the pronlem. These same people might be assholes regardless of what they ingest. IF smoking weed has no ill effects on people who use it, why are they so easy to identify? Why do they stand out? Unkempt, smelly dullards.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 6:45:29 GMT -5
> why are they so easy to identify? Why do they stand out? Unkempt, smelly dullards.
I suspect the statement is correct to some degree, but only to some degree. I further suspect there are many people who toke up occasionally but would not be readily identifiable, especially as described above - people you might never suspect.
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 7, 2011 9:01:04 GMT -5
I thought about this today. I've come to the realization the problem is not dope, but the people who use dope. Maybe the drug use is a symptom, not the cause of the pronlem. These same people might be assholes regardless of what they ingest. IF smoking weed has no ill effects on people who use it, why are they so easy to identify? Why do they stand out? Unkempt, smelly dullards. When I smoked, none of my group of friends would have met your description. We were all clean, professionals in our fields, and nothing like the stereotypes. Look at the amount of MJ that they intercept coming into this country. Look at the number of states in which it is the number #1 cash crop. There ain't THAT many dirty hippies. It's just that they are the ones who can afford to be up front about it. They have nothing to lose. Also they serve the admirable purpose of keeping the cops busy. "Not all Republicans are racist, but most racists are Republicans" is exactly as relevant as your statement.
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Post by Tsavodiner on Dec 7, 2011 19:57:06 GMT -5
At least "Dope Heads" is relevant to the subject. Your mention's the first I saw of ANYthing "republican".
Not all Republicans oppose legalization, and neither you nor anybody else knows how many if any are "racist", which to the left covers the spectrum of anybody who opposes anything they exhort.
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Post by TNBear on Dec 7, 2011 20:32:00 GMT -5
You say that till alcohol is placed on schedule one, where it certainly should be if marijuana is.
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Post by Police Moderator on Dec 7, 2011 20:58:42 GMT -5
I'd have to move to freedom loving Costa Rica, the Marquesas Islands, Avalon or off the Gold Coast of southern Georgia (As long as I was in International waters) if that were ever to happen. I have principles. Plus, I am moving somewhere away from here in 5 years anyway and retire..... With easy access (via any means of lawful transportation) to a beer/bait/smokes shop. ;D
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Post by professorx on Dec 7, 2011 21:09:53 GMT -5
> why are they so easy to identify? Why do they stand out? Unkempt, smelly dullards. I suspect the statement is correct to some degree, but only to some degree. I further suspect there are many people who toke up occasionally but would not be readily identifiable, especially as described above - people you might never suspect. Let me ask another question, since we never tire of this subject. This is a rough analogy... Take a regular alcohol user, an alcoholic and a regular weed head. They both quit. The former alcoholic seem to return to some sort of normality, whereas the former weed user seems to be permanently stuck in retarded. I am not sure we know, at what level of narcotic use does the weed user transform from "social/casual user" to permanent tard? Or again, are the people attracted to the regular use of weed permanent tards to begin with?
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Post by BlackFox on Dec 7, 2011 21:29:50 GMT -5
At least "Dope Heads" is relevant to the subject. Your mention's the first I saw of ANYthing "republican". Not all Republicans oppose legalization, and neither you nor anybody else knows how many if any are "racist", which to the left covers the spectrum of anybody who opposes anything they exhort. "SCHEDULE ONE TODAY, SCHEDULE ONE TOMORROW, SCHEDULE ONE FOREVER!!!" It was an analogous reference to the lack of causation in.....aw hell, never mind.
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Post by Tsavodiner on Dec 8, 2011 4:09:36 GMT -5
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Post by Warkitty on Dec 8, 2011 9:04:55 GMT -5
Funny, these days most of the dope heads I know ride mountain bikes, talk about what jerks road bike riders are (and how they'd not be caught dead in a race kit or how gay roadies look) while insisting that riding a bike on the street is too dangerous.
All of which reminds me of someone on this forum....
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Post by Police Moderator on Dec 8, 2011 17:25:08 GMT -5
I do not ride a pedacycle!
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Post by Tsavodiner on Dec 8, 2011 17:29:12 GMT -5
Funny, these days most of the dope heads I know ride mountain bikes, talk about what jerks road bike riders are (and how they'd not be caught dead in a race kit or how gay roadies look) while insisting that riding a bike on the street is too dangerous. All of which reminds me of someone on this forum.... YES! HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LONGSHOT!
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Post by Tsavodiner on Dec 8, 2011 17:30:18 GMT -5
"Questions Freddie Mercury might answer, Alex..."
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Post by professorx on Dec 8, 2011 19:14:21 GMT -5
Funny, these days most of the dope heads I know ride mountain bikes, talk about what jerks road bike riders are (and how they'd not be caught dead in a race kit or how gay roadies look) while insisting that riding a bike on the street is too dangerous. All of which reminds me of someone on this forum.... This is very funny, and somewhat true of some mountain bikers, but not me. I do not even ride mountain bikes as much as I should. If I smoked weed, all I would do is mountain bike in the national forrest and listen to my iPod. I would be like the Brad Pitt or Keanuea Reeves of the southeast woodlands. I would be as dumb as the rest. FYI, I am a slow runner that does not smoke weed.
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Post by professorx on Dec 8, 2011 19:15:50 GMT -5
"Questions Freddie Mercury might answer, Alex..." That's fat bottomed girls, and they make the rockin' world go round, or something...
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Post by professorx on Dec 8, 2011 19:21:53 GMT -5
I'd have to move to freedom loving Costa Rica, the Marquesas Islands, Avalon or off the Gold Coast of southern Georgia (As long as I was in International waters) if that were ever to happen. I have principles. Plus, I am moving somewhere away from here in 5 years anyway and retire..... With easy access (via any means of lawful transportation) to a beer/bait/smokes shop. ;D Why Panama?
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Post by Police Moderator on Dec 8, 2011 19:48:32 GMT -5
'Cause it was in a Van Halen song?
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Post by TNBear on Dec 8, 2011 20:53:56 GMT -5
Meet you in Costa Rica PM. I like the Pacific coast myself but wherever you are,except San Jose, it is a lovely place.
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