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Post by Justin Thyme on Jan 10, 2012 22:01:46 GMT -5
Reams upon reams of evidence continue to accumulate and the Federal Government still feels a need to keep this humble herb illegal even as states recognize the possible health and medical benefits for its use. Billions of dollars each year goes to waste out of the fear that someone might get high. Study: No lung danger from casual pot smoking
(CBS News) Add one more data point to the decades-old debate over marijuana legalization: A new study concludes that casual pot smoking - up to one joint per day - does not affect the functioning of your lungs.
The study, published in the Jan. 11 edition of Journal of the American Medical Association, also offered up a nugget that likely will surprise many: Evidence points to slight increases in lung airflow rates and increases in lung volume from occasional marijuana use.
Air flow is the amount of air someone can blow out of their lungs one second after taking the deepest breath possible. The volume measure is the total amount of air blown out once someone has taken the deepest breath possible.
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Post by ssmynkint on Jan 11, 2012 6:55:44 GMT -5
Plus billions in potential user tax revenues if legalized. Tennessee Tea.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 11, 2012 15:10:58 GMT -5
Sure...sucking smoke and toxins into your lungs causes no damage. In a related study, scientists studying the effectiveness of various adhesives state that inhaling the fumes causes no bodily harm.
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Post by TNBear on Jan 11, 2012 20:44:20 GMT -5
Come on LR, this obsession you have against marijauna makes you seem a little, well, obsessed.
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Post by JC on Jan 11, 2012 23:23:56 GMT -5
Plus billions in potential user tax revenues if legalized. Tennessee Tea. Yup! Because if there's one thing pot heads are known for it's paying their taxes  |
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Post by BlackFox on Jan 12, 2012 7:41:14 GMT -5
Plus billions in potential user tax revenues if legalized. Tennessee Tea. Yup! Because if there's one thing pot heads are known for it's paying their taxes Yes, I used to love skipping out on the taxes when I went in a store and bought rolling papers. The real loss of tax revenue comes from making a product available ONLY on the black market. A product that people are GOING to use. A product that is used by millions of Americans, and regardless of your stereotypes, are not all, or even mostly, a bunch of slacker hippies. It's like saying that everyone who drinks alcohol lives in the gutter grasping a brown paper bag. Yes, there are stoners, just like there are alcoholics. Guess which one of those two, in and of itself will kill you? Hint, it's not the illegal one. |
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Post by BlackFox on Jan 12, 2012 7:49:48 GMT -5
Sure...sucking smoke and toxins into your lungs causes no damage. In a related study, scientists studying the effectiveness of various adhesives state that inhaling the fumes causes no bodily harm. That's right folks, this guy carries a gun and is in a position of authority. |
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Post by ssmynkint on Jan 12, 2012 8:03:38 GMT -5
Uh.....proof read?
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Post by BlackFox on Jan 12, 2012 8:56:23 GMT -5
Posting on my phone is not my friend. Thanks. |
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 12, 2012 15:58:19 GMT -5
"That's right folks, this guy carries a gun and is in a position of authority."
Exactly. The one whose mind has not been addled by a life of weed smoking and chasing windmill causes.
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Post by ssmynkint on Jan 12, 2012 18:11:49 GMT -5
Pre addled obviously has its benefits.
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Post by JC on Jan 12, 2012 18:31:37 GMT -5
Yup! Because if there's one thing pot heads are known for it's paying their taxes Yes, I used to love skipping out on the taxes when I went in a store and bought rolling papers. The real loss of tax revenue comes from making a product available ONLY on the black market. A product that people are GOING to use. A product that is used by millions of Americans, and regardless of your stereotypes, are not all, or even mostly, a bunch of slacker hippies. It's like saying that everyone who drinks alcohol lives in the gutter grasping a brown paper bag. Yes, there are stoners, just like there are alcoholics. Guess which one of those two, in and of itself will kill you? Hint, it's not the illegal one. You're right. It's not like people grow that stuff themselves or anything. Oh, I never indicated that all pot smokers are hippies. They're also thugs, wife beaters and otherwise non-productive members of society. Oh oh, I also carry a gun. I hope my sarcasm here doesn't scare you knowing that. |
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Post by BlackFox on Jan 12, 2012 18:47:32 GMT -5
You're right. It's not like people grow that stuff themselves or anything. Yea, you can brew all the beer you want too, and sales seem to be doing alright. |
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Post by ssmynkint on Jan 12, 2012 18:59:23 GMT -5
JC, if you are trying to make a point, I , in my post-addled condition, missed it.
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Post by JC on Jan 12, 2012 19:03:02 GMT -5
You're right. It's not like people grow that stuff themselves or anything. Yea, you can brew all the beer you want too, and sales seem to be doing alright. There's a reason people have never made their own beer and liquor en masse. Even during prohibition only those with the know-how and free space made it. But, any stoner can grow weed like a Chia Pet. Spread seeds, water, smoke. |
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Post by JC on Jan 12, 2012 19:04:46 GMT -5
JC, if you are trying to make a point, I , in my post-addled condition, missed it. No need to explain. We know that you miss a lot of stuff... |
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Post by ssmynkint on Jan 12, 2012 20:23:37 GMT -5
No messiah, indeed.
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Post by TNBear on Jan 12, 2012 20:35:11 GMT -5
Oh yeah. What the hell do adhesives have to do with smoking wacky tabaccy?
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Post by Conservator on Jan 13, 2012 8:59:36 GMT -5
You're right. It's not like people grow that stuff themselves or anything. Yea, you can brew all the beer you want too, and sales seem to be doing alright. This is a good point. (Not a thread-jack, just a side note) I was just thinkin about a similar point watchin' Moonshiners the other night (DVR'd). You can grow your own vegtables, brew your own beer, but try to make your own liquor and you've crossed the line? Or is it just about the quantity you brew? Sheesh, it's not like they're making heroin. |
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Post by gridbug on Jan 13, 2012 12:48:15 GMT -5
LR is an excellent example of a religious man. No fact will ever get in the way of his beliefs.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 13, 2012 16:43:08 GMT -5
"Oh yeah. What the hell do adhesives have to do with smoking wacky tabaccy?"
Apparently I'm casting pearls.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 13, 2012 16:43:59 GMT -5
"LR is an excellent example of a religious man. No fact will ever get in the way of his beliefs."
And my altar isn't made out of hemp.
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Post by Half-Tard on Jan 13, 2012 17:09:05 GMT -5
Word on the street you love a good pearl necklace
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 13, 2012 17:10:48 GMT -5
Don't you know it, sister!
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jan 13, 2012 19:16:38 GMT -5
Sure...sucking smoke and toxins into your lungs causes no damage. In a related study, scientists studying the effectiveness of various adhesives state that inhaling the fumes causes no bodily harm. The study didn't state that marijuana smoke is harmless, it found that at the dosage the average marijuana user takes into the lungs the lungs remained undamaged. Just the same as people can use the toxic adhesives without harming their health people can use marijuana without harming their health. |
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Post by professorx on Jan 14, 2012 18:48:23 GMT -5
Reams upon reams of evidence continue to accumulate and the Federal Government still feels a need to keep this humble herb illegal even as states recognize the possible health and medical benefits for its use. Billions of dollars each year goes to waste out of the fear that someone might get high. It seems the lung "benefit" is attributed to the technique of marijuana smoking not the marijuana itself - according to the study "marijuana users tend to breathe in deeply when they inhale a joint, which some researchers think might strengthen lung tissue". Also "Like cigarette smokers, marijuana users can develop throat irritation and coughs, but the study didn't focus on those. It also didn't examine lung cancer, but other studies haven't found any definitive link between marijuana use and cancer." So if another study said "Chronic masturbation is good for you because it develops arm strength" it means broadly that chronic masturbation should be encouraged? Any sort of limited scope study like this makes me think the researchers had a foregone conclusion. The outcome of the research has nothing to marijuana smoking, but the technique of holding your breath, something that has been known to increase lung function for a long time. Common sense should tell anyone that inhaling any sort of particulate matter enhances a person's risk of emphysema or other lung disease. |
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 16, 2012 13:35:26 GMT -5
Exactly.
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Post by osrb on Jan 16, 2012 13:45:40 GMT -5
I think so many people miss the point. Who's business is it anyway? What people do with their own bodies is THEIR business. The government has no right in telling me or anybody else what I can or can't do to myself. LR if you study history the level of hard corps drinkers went down after prohibition was ended.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Jan 16, 2012 14:07:03 GMT -5
"Who's business is it anyway?"
EVERY SINGLE PERSON who comes into contact with theses numbnuts who believe marijuana has no effect on judgement or physical/mental abilities. It is people who think that weed is harmless that try to drive or work or make decisions that end up maiming/killing others. Marijuana has the same effects as alcohol on a person's body/mind.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jan 16, 2012 14:09:28 GMT -5
Reams upon reams of evidence continue to accumulate and the Federal Government still feels a need to keep this humble herb illegal even as states recognize the possible health and medical benefits for its use. Billions of dollars each year goes to waste out of the fear that someone might get high. It seems the lung "benefit" is attributed to the technique of marijuana smoking not the marijuana itself - according to the study "marijuana users tend to breathe in deeply when they inhale a joint, which some researchers think might strengthen lung tissue". Also "Like cigarette smokers, marijuana users can develop throat irritation and coughs, but the study didn't focus on those. It also didn't examine lung cancer, but other studies haven't found any definitive link between marijuana use and cancer." So if another study said "Chronic masturbation is good for you because it develops arm strength" it means broadly that chronic masturbation should be encouraged? Any sort of limited scope study like this makes me think the researchers had a foregone conclusion. The outcome of the research has nothing to marijuana smoking, but the technique of holding your breath, something that has been known to increase lung function for a long time. Common sense should tell anyone that inhaling any sort of particulate matter enhances a person's risk of emphysema or other lung disease. You are missing the point. No benefit was ascribed to the herb in this test. The only benefit noted resulted from the ritual, not the substance. The point was that no harm to the lungs was found at the average users dosage. Yes smoke can be harmful to the lungs, regardless of the source, but the lungs can handle some exposure without being damaged. |
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