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Post by BlackFox on Mar 8, 2012 9:24:22 GMT -5
Well, I made sure to stay up and watch all of Hannity last night, and I truly feel dumber for having done it, so I need a little help this morning. Can someone please tell me what I'm supposed to be outraged about in regards to the "damning" video that Hannity "Exclusively released" last night(even though the video was played in its entirety on PBS in 2008 and has been on Youtube ever since)? I mean, I didn't even see a teleprompter to rage about. video.foxnews.com/v/1494661753001/exclusive-unedited-obama-race-video-unveiled |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 8, 2012 9:34:03 GMT -5
Who is Hannity and why should he have any influence on my rage?
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 8, 2012 9:46:18 GMT -5
Who is Hannity and why should he have any influence on my rage? Sean Hannity has a very popular radio show and 9pm television show on Fox. On his radio show, this video that he and especially the now late Andrew Breitbart, was trumpeted as basically what would bring down Obama. It was EXCLUSIVE!, and it was huge. Hannity is part of the unholy trinity of Rush, Hannity, and Beck whose purpose in life is to scare old people and poison the discourse in this country. So you know, Breitbart was a blogger who started off with The Drudge Report years ago, and since has built a sort of right wing media empire. He died last week. Someon the right are blaming Obama because Breitbart was bragging about how this video would destroy Obama. |
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Mar 8, 2012 10:39:46 GMT -5
Well, Obama DOES have Hillary Clinton in his cabinet and she knows how to silence those who are against her: www.bigeye.com/vfoster.htm |
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 8, 2012 10:57:08 GMT -5
Well, Obama DOES have Hillary Clinton in his cabinet and she knows how to silence those who are against her: www.bigeye.com/vfoster.htm |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 8, 2012 11:34:21 GMT -5
That does not impress me. He is an entertainer that I would listen to for amusement, not enlightenment. I watched a portion of the video, Googled "Derrick Bell" and more or less found that I wasted my time. Brietbart was just hyping himself with his announcement at CPAC. That's how he makes a living, much as Hanity, Limbaugh and that fool Beck. Who are they? (Asked not for information as to their identity but as to their significance.)
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Post by gridbug on Mar 8, 2012 13:02:46 GMT -5
Other than Newt the Idea Machine Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity comprise the GOP intellectual base.
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 8, 2012 13:28:23 GMT -5
JiT,
You minimize the impact of Rush, Hannity, and Beck. That may be true for you, but they reach millions of people and they drive much of the narrative for the low information voter.
I just think it's funny that this video was hyped so much, and it was essentially nothing.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 8, 2012 13:48:53 GMT -5
Do I? I would submit to you that society has a much greater impact on how those three structure their shows. They lead from behind. They follow the trends of their audience and are talented enough to put their audience's thoughts into witty sayings. Stewart and Cobert do the same thing with their audience.
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 8, 2012 13:59:34 GMT -5
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
I agree that all of those sources give their audience what they want, but it's the substance that matters. Is the information they give them to back up their preconceived notions the truth or not?
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Post by osrb on Mar 9, 2012 15:37:07 GMT -5
Both sides are guilty of Manufactured Outrage. This is not a rep or a dem thing it is political thing.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 9, 2012 15:51:14 GMT -5
Both democrats and republicans are simply two heads of the same poisonous snake. One is a faster acting poison than the other. Republicans destroy our body and democrats destroy our brains.
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Post by professorx on Mar 11, 2012 0:48:08 GMT -5
JiT, You minimize the impact of Rush, Hannity, and Beck. That may be true for you, but they reach millions of people and they drive much of the narrative for the low information voter. I just think it's funny that this video was hyped so much, and it was essentially nothing. How have your low information sources such as Maher, Colbert, Stewart, MSNBC told you to react? |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 11, 2012 8:42:58 GMT -5
JiT, You minimize the impact of Rush, Hannity, and Beck. That may be true for you, but they reach millions of people and they drive much of the narrative for the low information voter. I just think it's funny that this video was hyped so much, and it was essentially nothing. How have your low information sources such as Maher, Colbert, Stewart, MSNBC told you to react? Maher? Bill Maher? The guy that called Sarah Palin a c%&t? |
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Post by ssmynkint on Mar 11, 2012 9:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 11, 2012 9:30:45 GMT -5
Giving what any of these people say any weight is a distraction from the important topics.
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 11, 2012 9:36:07 GMT -5
My only source on this matter was Hannity, and the recommended reaction was outrage. I haven't heard anything from those other sources, who are almost all comedians by the way. This story was intended to be huge. It ended up being a dud.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 11, 2012 14:46:01 GMT -5
Hannity isn't a comedian? His stuff isn't political parody? You could have fooled me.
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Post by Half-Tard on Mar 11, 2012 14:48:46 GMT -5
Hannity is a comedian no one takes his shit serious but him. He is a very dumb man. Literally dumb, just listen if you can.
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 11, 2012 18:42:51 GMT -5
We know that, but there are millions that think he is a forward thinking patriot, and these people vote!
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Post by TNBear on Mar 11, 2012 19:09:54 GMT -5
I don't listen to any of those entertainers. Right, left, conservative, libertarian or liberal they are naught but sound and fury signifying NOTHING. They will say and do whatever it takes to keep the cash register ringing, just as politicians do.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 11, 2012 19:43:26 GMT -5
We know that, but there are millions that think he is a forward thinking patriot, and these people vote! You think Stewart, Colbert and Maher don't have their millions of followers that are shaped by their acts? This is a country where there speech is protected right along with yours. They have figured out how to become very wealthy making fun of one political wing or the other. |
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Post by BlackFox on Mar 12, 2012 8:09:33 GMT -5
We know that, but there are millions that think he is a forward thinking patriot, and these people vote! You think Stewart, Colbert and Maher don't have their millions of followers that are shaped by their acts? This is a country where there speech is protected right along with yours. They have figured out how to become very wealthy making fun of one political wing or the other. O.K, I guess it could be my bias, but I think one thing should be pointed out. First, Stewart, Colbert, and Maher are comedians doing comedy shows. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham, Levin, Crowley, O'Reilly and the ilk portray themselves as informational, opinion driven news sources. Something quite different. Also, I will say at least in regard to Jon Stewart. He points out right wing hypocrisy and stupidity mainly yes, but he also takes aim at Democrats quite often, and does some of the hardest hitting interviews on TV. He tries to throw some humor in there, but he asks the tough questions of both sides. |
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Post by osrb on Mar 12, 2012 8:48:44 GMT -5
You forgot to mention Olberman and Mathews. Many people think these guys are news when it is just their opinion.
I do not listen to any of these guys right or left they are all a bunch of highly paid clown.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 12, 2012 8:51:07 GMT -5
You think Stewart, Colbert and Maher don't have their millions of followers that are shaped by their acts? This is a country where there speech is protected right along with yours. They have figured out how to become very wealthy making fun of one political wing or the other. O.K, I guess it could be my bias, but I think one thing should be pointed out. First, Stewart, Colbert, and Maher are comedians doing comedy shows. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham, Levin, Crowley, O'Reilly and the ilk portray themselves as informational, opinion driven news sources. Something quite different. Maher bills himself as both a stand up comedian and a political commentator. Look at a bio of him and you will find that he sits on a number of boards for politically active institutions. Make no mistake about it, he is pushing an agenda and his followers take him seriously. Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" has received several awards for journalism even though he makes no bones about the fact that he is an entertainer and his show is designed to take potshots at the news media. Comedian or not, people take him and his show dead seriously. Stephen Colbert may be the most influential of the three. He plays the part of the King's Fool and plays it superbly. Which of the others, left or right, can make the claim that their "acts" are having an effect on election law like Stephen Colbert with his SuperPAC? They are all entertainers, left and right, and none of them claim to be anything more. Some call themselves comedians while the others just leave it as entertainers or talk show hosts. Their followers claim them to be God and they are all influential to some degree. When any of them get to believing too much of the claims they are spouting it's an indication that they have finally gone insane, kind of like Beck did, and the media disposes of them leaving them only a website and podcasts to spout their rantings from. Also, I will say at least in regard to Jon Stewart. He points out right wing hypocrisy and stupidity mainly yes, but he also takes aim at Democrats quite often, and does some of the hardest hitting interviews on TV. He tries to throw some humor in there, but he asks the tough questions of both sides. So you are giving Stewart credibility? He's an entertainer. His hard hitting questions are often just a way to take the victim out of context so he can throw his own spin on the matter. Don't be sucked in by any of them. |
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Post by Justin Thyme on Mar 12, 2012 11:38:22 GMT -5
Oh! And remember Al Franken? Do you remember that comedian? The one that got himself elected to the US Senate and is now putting his radio talk show schtick into play in legislation that you and I are bound by law to? Here's his latest BS. Republicans want to put your boss in charge of your health care.
Is your boss a doctor? Probably not. And even if your boss IS a doctor, do you really want your boss deciding what kind of health care you’re able to get?
If Republicans get their way, you could be denied coverage for contraception or any other treatment your boss doesn’t feel like you should have.
Don’t let Republicans turn your boss into your doctor -- sign this petition now! The Republicans don't care what health care you get as long as the person paying for it doesn't have to pay for procedures he or she finds morally reprehensible. If you want free contrceptives go to the local health department of Planned Parenthood office. No one is preventing you from getting your contraceptives. Personally, I have a huge problem with the Republicans plan but I at least have the intelligence of voicing my disagreement without resorting to half-truths and scare tactics. I know both the right and left use these methods and that's my point. They are all corrupt, all polarizing and all of them have their followers. |
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Post by Tsavodiner on Mar 21, 2012 21:32:46 GMT -5
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