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Post by professorx on Jan 8, 2010 14:49:38 GMT -5
If you are at the point where the police are asking for your id then you are probably beyond the point where you can say "no" and walk away. There is a reason the police ask for ID, and I am sure Mr. Blogger left it out. I've never heard of a case where a person refused ID and did not go to jail. BECAUSE there was a reason for them to go to jail before the ID was asked for. It was not because the police are gestapo and walk around wasting time by asking nobodies for ID then jailing them to be vindictive.
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Post by professorx on Jan 5, 2010 23:42:30 GMT -5
objection you honor. there's missionaries all over the world. you just don't hear about them. well... untill one group gets accused by the NYTimes of swaying Ugandan law.Well if the Episcopalians say it, and the NYT endorses it, then it is a fact. And for the missionaries in non-Christian countries, I'm skeptical they are there in any significant number. More often than not, they are in Christian friendly countries. If the "evangelical Christians" became "progressive" then people would leave them like they left the Episcopal church. The appearance is that the church is putting politics over religion. People leave progressive churches in droves. The article mentions that known homosexuals might be subject to being executed because of the evangelical influence. That of course is a stretch. These countries are far behind the United States and Europe when it comes to societal issues and the acceptance of those who are different. I guess the Episcopals have never considered the commandment against bearing false witness. Although I am not a church-goer I am always skeptical of people who drape themselves with religiosity to push a political agenda.
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Post by professorx on Jan 5, 2010 22:08:51 GMT -5
I encountered on the Episcopal Facebook page a story from the New York Times on an evangelical Christian mission from the U.S. to encourage anti-gay measures in Uganda. Some Ugandans have taken this to an extreme level. [/blockquote][/quote] Uganda was a mecca of tolerance until the evangelical Christians tainted them. The number of evangelical Christians in Uganda and their influence approaches zero. It is mostly a Catholic and Anglican country. There are more Muslims (12%) than evangelical Christians, but unlike evangelical Christians they have nothing but tolerance when it comes to homosexuals. I've always wondered what happened to the noble occupation of the missionary. They only seem to go to predominately Christian countries now. Have them go to Islamabad or Tehran, then I'd be impressed.
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Post by professorx on Jan 5, 2010 21:58:04 GMT -5
I just gotta say: I'm glad Im not a parent w/ a kid attending the University of Tennessee right now that place is out of control. I've always hated the city of Knoxville but Im beginning to hate the Universities' sports programs. and I've always pulled for the Vols somewhat Knoxville and the Vols are worthy of contempt, but what would be the chances of your child attending the same level classes of a "student-athlete" unless your child was a senior and had the declared major of "Undecided". I didn't even think it was possible to be an upperclassman with an undecided major. Why do they even pretend they are trying to give these kids to get an education? What will they fall back on if their sports career is de-railed? What do sports add to a college? Prestige? I guess Yale and MIT's college teams are outstanding.
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Post by professorx on Jan 5, 2010 21:40:09 GMT -5
Four UT basketball players face drug and weapon charges Throw the book at them. Only professional athletes are above the law*. *except Michael Vick
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Post by professorx on Jan 5, 2010 0:21:55 GMT -5
We'll give them the ones who are "too good" to work those jobs, and we'll take the ones who are willing to work. Why would they want to take our problems?
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Post by professorx on Jan 4, 2010 23:13:19 GMT -5
Man Who Has Been Deported At Least 5 Times Gets 11-Month Term chattanoogan.com/articles/article_165999.aspGumercindo Ramirez-Roblero is set to be sent out of the country once again after he completes the sentence. Ramirez-Roblero told Federal Judge Sandy Mattice he keeps coming back because he has four children here and he is supporting them along with nieces and nephews and his parents in Mexico... In a related story, nearly ten percent of Americans claim they can't find work. What's the solution?
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Post by professorx on Jan 4, 2010 23:10:57 GMT -5
Lynyrd Skynyrd is a fucking great band. just not really since 1977 I never liked them. The songs were too long and monotonous. There were a ton of better bands then, even southern bands. I mean imagine picking any Skynerd over the first two Ozzy records, AC/DC or Van Halen in their prime. Of course most of these bands are shells of their former selves now, but then Skynerd was sort of boring, plain, middle of the road. I even like Molly Hatchet and Marhall Tucker Band better than LS. Hell I like CDB (that's the Charlie Daniels Band, better recognize) better than LS.
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Post by professorx on Jan 1, 2010 23:49:37 GMT -5
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Post by professorx on Dec 31, 2009 19:24:27 GMT -5
What is there to be optimistic about? Nothing. Bailing out the banks was the previous administration though. Favoring Wall Street though has continued into the current administration. With Summers and Geitner, there can be no doubt. Obama had a tremendous opportunity. I feel as though he is squandering it. Just the usual broken promises. Nothing ever changes, no matter what party is in power. Agreed (more or less).
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Post by professorx on Dec 31, 2009 18:12:47 GMT -5
Professorx: My response in [ ]. You are reading your bias into the article. [Maybe. But as I stated earlier, prevention is usually mentioned if there was a possibility missed. ] [Note it is not stated if Yost had the opportunity to shoot before Roberts was wounded or not. So your reading is just another assumption. Ether your assumption or mine could be correct based on the posted and linked article. I simply prefer mine because the recognition of possible future problems may be averted if addressed rather than making excuses and ignoring the potential for future problems.] [Not really. The current loss of Roberts is another basis that can be used to determine to use illegal force the next time either before the suspect is subdued or after. Shooting a gunman to save self or other is legal. Note that I stated illegal force was likely the next time, not that it was guaranteed. Posters here often express the desire to prevent crime by citizens by any means but balk at the suggestion that a LEO could be headed in the direction of illegal acts that may be headed off with counseling.] I think we all can agree the guy has been though a lot. I don't believe is it reasonable to suggest that he is going to kill the next person he has half a chance to in retaliation. There is nothing to suggest he is on a path to illegal acts. I see grief, not anger.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 22:16:21 GMT -5
There is nothing in the linked article indicating that a quicker shot would have saved the down officer. Hence a shooting after after the officer was down would have been a vigilante killing. Yost regretted not shooting. Nothing was said indicating that Yost felt that he could have prevented the death of Roberts. If a preventive shooting by Yost would have saved Roberts, Yost would have highlighted that fact. Only if you can prove that the killing of the downed officer could have been prevented will I accept your basis for justifiable killing. You are reading your bias into the article. There is nothing in the linked article indicating that Yost wanted to kill the offender in an act of vengeance. His regret was over the death of his co-worker, that he was unable to act to prevent the death of his partner. Hence the angst was over not acting in time to prevent the death of his friend, not that he was unable to put a notch on his pistol. You wrote "Nothing was said indicating that Yost felt that he could have prevented the death of Roberts." But in the first sentence of the article is says "Minutes after learning his colleague died from a bullet, one of the first officers to respond to the August slaying of Cpl. Mike Roberts blamed himself for not shooting the suspect." This is he blamed himself for the death of his partner, not blamed himself for not retaliating. I can understand your bias though. Most people would naturally want to lash out at and hurt someone that killed a coworker and a friend. Especially when the coworker and friend is leaving behind a wife and kids, but it is not part of the job... its not part of the training. That kind of crap is only in the movies. As it says in the article "There's a big difference between an emotional response after losing an officer, and the actual response," McElroy said. "Cpl. Yost did an excellent job that night. To express human feelings and emotion, it's normal and didn't dictate his actions. His training kicked in." Now add to this the officer lost his own father and another coworker to violent felons. You are turning this guy's grief into something ugly and unwarranted.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 21:34:08 GMT -5
has everybody forgotten that with the latest incident the idiot boarded in another country. Here's the deal from experience. You go though security in in the 3rd world country. They have the metal-detectors and the x-ray machines. 1. You land in Europe and go through a security interview at the transit boarding counter. 2. You then go though the main European immigration/customs/security with X-rays, metal detector, etc. They x-ray your carry-on, search it by hand, and "wand" and pat you down. 3. THEN after that they search EACH piece of carry-on luggage at the GATE by hand right before you take off. They wand you again. They pat you down again. They sometimes X-ray your carry on again. This last check is done for US purposes. This is the part dictated by US standards. Sometimes TSA people in TSA uniforms are there. Sometimes it is others following TSA standards and policy. So even though the last check was performed in a foreign country it is an independent check dictated by US policy and standards.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 21:01:01 GMT -5
I thought you meant on this board. Yes, the administration has beaten that phrase to death. It was deserved early on, but they now own it all. At the same time, Republicans should stop acting like everything only started going downhill and the budget just got out of control on Jan. 20th. I feel that many people believe that the way that money is being spent now is way out of control. Bailing out the banks, bailing out the auto industry, now spending on health care reform. Things do not seem to be improving even though we have spent a fortune. We generally do not stay in these recessions that long, and Obama's plans seemed to have made things worse or delayed the recovery. As far as the war and terrorism, things do not seem to have improved at all. As far as general politics there has been no "change". How can you have an administration of "Change" with long-term career politicians like Clinton, Biden, etc.? If there were fresh new faces (actual change) making the mistakes I think people would be more forgiving. What is there to be optimistic about?
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 20:46:13 GMT -5
Al Franken's ( ) "Supply Side Jesus" takes Franken's crude thoughtless caricature of Republicans and imposes it on Christ. Goebbels would be proud of this level of perfidy in propaganda. It takes the worst of what your side wants to believe and tries to validate it. It attempts to make people with differing opinions somewhat "less than equals". You have to hand it to Franken though. It takes skill to sell bigotry as "enlightened thinking". With that said, my suggestion that Jesus was not a socialist merely because he was a literate, middle class business owner was not entirely without humor. If I had the skill, I would put it in graphic form so you might fully appreciate it. Maybe a gritty Jesus graphic comic reboot? It might take that to get people to at least consider things that aren't already geared to the lowest common denominator. Things not stripped of their subtly and nuance. But then again some people like Sagan and Franken. I'm sure Bill Marr and Janene Garafalo are a hoot too.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 20:26:19 GMT -5
Sagan was f'ed up on weed most of the time. "Billions and billons..." Contact was awful. He never said "Billions and billions", and Contact was excellent. Sagan brought science and a basic understanding of our place in the cosmos to the common person better than any other public figure. Yes he did. No it wasn't. Astronomy didn't need a self-styled spokesperson. In spite of Sagan, I did like "Cosmos". But before PBS turned into Brit-Com central it used to show a lot of science based shows, many better than Cosmos. NOVA was always a better show without all the doey eyed hyperbole and stoner dramatics. I also remember The Learning Channel before it turned into The Freakshow Channel. The Discovery Channel has also seen better days. "Please tell me more about science Mr. Russian Literature major and other person who has no apparent higher education."
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 20:08:09 GMT -5
Ghetto bike!!! The cyclist in the video was not following the 3 foot rule.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 19:58:40 GMT -5
"No, I should have shot him." This shows a major shift in the officer’s view of a suspect. A resolve to kill the next offender that shoots an officer. This time Mark Yost followed his training. Next time he will kill the suspect in an act of lawless vigilante retribution. What is this opinion based on? If he were going to commit a vengeance shooting he was already motivated before this incident: " For Yost, those feelings were all the more personal because his father, also an officer, was slain by armed robbers in Illinois, said Tampa police spokeswoman Laura McElroy. Another gunman wounded and nearly killed one of Yost's friends, Officer Kevin Howell, in 1995."
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 19:52:55 GMT -5
Grid, you cut me. I've been a member of the United Methodist Church for over thirty years where I have worshiped in harmony with many other Christians. I have yet to be called a heretic by any of them. I say the Apostle's Creed during each worship
The Apostle's Creed essentially is the dividing line between heretics and non by its very defintion. "Heretic" in this instance meaning non-traditional Christians. I know of no Christian church that rejects it. But, I'll let Grid get back to explaining your beliefs to you.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 19:45:40 GMT -5
Here, I'll let a personal hero of mine say it for me... Sagan was f'ed up on weed most of the time. "Billions and billons..." Contact was awful.
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 19:39:11 GMT -5
It's my RIGHT to drive while talking/texting on my phone, with my tunes blasting, eating my burger while drunk. And I'll be damned if I'm wearing a stuipid seat belt! I used to think that driving was safe until I drove in Atlanta. The average highway speed (when actually moving) is 87 mph. I actually saw a lady pass me as she was eating a bowl of soup. I've seen people reading both books and newspapers in Atlanta traffic. I've witnessed a Nascar style wreck that involved 5 cars at high speed. It looked like a car explosion in the rear view mirror (it involved no fatalities). I saw cars spinning on their roofs at intersections. I have no idea how a person would flip a car on a road with a 35 mph speed limit. I've seen passenger cars pass police cars running code on the interstate. The closest to it here (and its not that close) is 153 beteen 4 and 9 am. We have the worst drivers of any place in the US. If I were king I would ban Nascar. It is the root cause of this driving. "Driving fast equals driving skillfully" is a huge logical mistake and will eventually cost someone thier life. When one of these idiots injuries someone on 153 due to their wrecklessness, the injured should rip the makeshift sheet-metal or plywood spoiler off the back of their "race car" and beat them half to death with it. I am sure it will be one of the anti-authoritarian "screw the rules" types that haunt these forums and whose greatest contribution to society is handing out lattes at their place of employment. The second type locally is the lady driving her husband the lawyer's expensive car. "Screw the ticket, my husband will pay for it." The third type is the guy in the F-150 that wants to "draft" about three inches off your back bumper. All three types are in abundance on 153. I assume because people feel that cops can not park and shoot radar on the dam. It would be a good tactical location for speed cameras. The article mentions the risk cuts across racial and social economic divisons, but in my estimation it is almost always the white kid wearing his hat askew in his honda (with sheet metal spoiler), entitled middle aged white woman (Lexus SUV), or red-neck (F-150).
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Post by professorx on Dec 30, 2009 19:02:48 GMT -5
On The Beat: Fire Me? Let Us Count The Ways Written by Alex Teach December 30, 2009 – 12:00 pm Classic. I think Alex Teach (if indeed that is his real name) may have found his voice. I like the slightly angry Teach... I was not a fan before, but the error of my ways has been demonstrated.
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Post by professorx on Dec 29, 2009 0:18:19 GMT -5
It's right that we demand to know why one radicalized 23-year-old passed through one of the most secure airports in the world (Schiphol). Security sucks at Schipol. I saw 20 activists sneak onto the roof and rappel down the front of the main entrance to hang banners. 20 people should not be able to easily access restricted areas in broad daylight. The "Nothing to declare" line is literally the exit door to the street. Now consider that Schiphol and CDG have rail systems running under them. Airports are terrible places for security. There are scads of homeless people living in the Atlanta airport. Every few years you hear of people working there with fake identities, most of these time the people are foreigners who have to use fake documents to get employment. If people have been sneaking narcotics though security for decades, then why would they have trouble with destructive devices? I am not sure if the problem is technological or military. Regardless of technology why is anyone allowed on a plane to the United States with a one-way ticket on a short-stay visa? Why would this same person not raise red flags when he had no luggage? Never mind the terror watchlist. Where was the common sense watch list.
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Post by professorx on Dec 26, 2009 23:36:08 GMT -5
I also would like to ask you,pro,why are you getting so upset with what I said? I never singled you out personally. I never singled Christians out as hypocrites, which I'm assuming you are Christian here. Do you often pray for bad things to come to others so you may gain? Honestly, that's the only thing I can think of here :shrugs: Strick, If you feel like I out of line then I appologize. You wrote: "I'm afraid the guy in the video is much like allot of religious types. Preying for bad to come to others so good will come to you. Such good people, aren't they?" I disagree that the prank caller was anything but a prank caller. Since he called and lied about who he was, can I now portray goof-ball liberals as all being compulsive liars now? It was alright to say he represented all Christians, now is it alright to say he represents all Liberals?
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Post by professorx on Dec 26, 2009 23:31:57 GMT -5
If you make your mind up on an issue dependent on your political leanings by all means quit voting. Don't let Rush,Olberman etc..tell you what to think. Yeah, I am sure you are a deep thinking, well read person who bases his opinions anything but politics as usual. Anyway you guys felt it was fair to paint Christians with a broad brush based on a call to C-SPAN. Now it turns out it was a prank call. I guess I can use the fact that it was a prank call to insist that all liberals are either liars or rubes. gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/video-proof-that-c-span-caller-who-pranked-sen-barrosso-was-fake-republican/Of course it was obvious that it was a prank caller so I am leaning toward you all being liars.
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Post by professorx on Dec 24, 2009 22:42:28 GMT -5
I love how a lot of libs like to jump on the fence the moment they can't defend the lib side they otherwise fight for every other day of the week. Not to say you have to side with Repubs or Dems or nothing... but if you're a lib, you're a lib. They seem to "jump on the fence," but actually don't believe in or stand for anything substantial. You have one supposed forum liberal making "re-nig" jokes in another forum. Another forum liberal here throwing around the word "queer". Others using a obvious prank call to CSPAN to broadly denigrate Christians. Its not like they believe in the left or the right, they are oblivious to it all. They have latched onto something easy to understand "I'm for smoking weed," or "I'm for the LOGO Channel" and have no real depth of understanding of anything political. The reason that pinning them down on a issue is like nailing jello to a tree is because they have no real point of view or depth of understanding.
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Post by professorx on Dec 23, 2009 23:48:27 GMT -5
I'm all for them, if the cost allows to provide an officer to go with them. No defense attorney worth his salt is going to allow a jury to see his client the night of.... They do not look as compact as advertised: www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/TASERAXON.aspx
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Post by professorx on Dec 23, 2009 23:06:59 GMT -5
Who stole what from the "queers," as you so eloquently put it? The participants in the initial stages of the American Revolution are now "queers"? I think the real national issue should be helping people to help themselves. Perhaps if a person could string together words to make sentences then they might be employable. If they were then employable then they might be able to afford health insurance. If people become educated they run the risk of thinking for themselves and shedding the spoon-fed liberal rhetoric. They might enjoy some of the things in life that require the use of critical thinking skills and the understanding of subtlety and nuance. They might develop independent thinking and shed the idea that someone else has to provide and protect them from everything. The idea that they might bear at least some responsibility for protecting themselves and purchasing their own life necessitates including health care. Most people see though the guise "for the less fortunate". Most people are not fooled by the feigned philanthropy. You cannot be a credible spokesperson for the "less fortunate" when you are trying to dictate how you want other people's money spent on you. Well, actually if you want to get technical about it all...Liberals are actually more educated then Republicans. You should know that. Republicans are always moaning and groaning about how liberal schools are. Now, before you go pounding on my :gasp: spelling errors, and call me a stupid Liberal, you should know that I am not a Liberal. I am actually registered as the opposite. It's just that I personally do not let political party titles dictate my decisions like "allot" of people do I'd like to know where the quote that liberals are more educated comes from. The lack of even basic understanding is mind-boggling. Even armed with only common sense a person should realize that we are currently spending way too much money. Trillions on the banking industry, trillions on the auto industry, trillions on socialized health care. How educated should a person be to understand we can't be spending money like this? Second the message you quoted and repsonded to is from Carync or someone... You were piling on with the "Boo Hoo I can't believe a Christian would call in and pray for someone's death". When a so-called Muslim calls CSPAN and says Obama is following a sinister plan and was a muslim all along, how stupid would a person be to believe it? I will call CSPAN tomorrow and tell them I am a bed-wetting liberal who lives in mommy's basement and it will make it a fact. It seems to me that liberal are naive and vastly uneducated. If a degree ends with an "A" (as in Arts) they may as well be flipping burgers. Education as I put it would be educational reform. There are tons of morons walking around with worthless college degrees who should have taken something worthwile instead of philosophy, art history, or some other crap. Now these rubes walk around alienated, under-employed and super-entitled.
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Post by professorx on Dec 23, 2009 21:48:25 GMT -5
And Freeman has a fool for a client. Bad move on his behalf. I think the racial profiling angle is hogwash, but it leads up to the bigger idea that Wal-Mart is negligent in it training in regards to loss-prevention. It is about as good as the professional attorney's argument against the city in the previous suit. Racial profiling has become a "catch-all" when people have run out of all other arguments. I don't know anything about Freeman except for what was on the news after the Wal-Mart incident up until now... To me it is kind of hard not to root for the guy that is down. I feel like I have to justify myself here. I think the whole Wal-mart fiasco was the over-zealous greeters fault. I think the second incident was probably due to a vengeful girlfriend. I am not necessarily trying to engage you in a debate about the man's virtues, only trying to explain my point-of-view to the "Police Moderator". I understand I am definitely an outsider when it comes to these things. To me it looks like he got all twisted up and now kicked to the curb after a career in public service. Now I guess he is supposed to go out and get a job selling insurance or cars after years of public service and self sacrifice? He may or may not have taken a bullet or gotten his ass kicked by a thug, but it is still a tough job with moderate pay. All the anniversaries, graduations, birthdays, holidays missed to serve the general public and its over based on a greeter incident. I think that many in police work forget the day-to-day sacrifices (even their own) and are only cognizant of the most extreme examples. I'd have the same sympathetic attitude for any officer on the outs unless he were an actual criminal... Even if I worked for the police and had a total dick to work with, I'd never want to see a person's career and basically their life's work end like that. Now you all may be losing a veteran police officer with no new replacements in sight. He might have been a total dick but he might have been the one with enough experience to know a person is casing my house and neighborhood. He might have been the one that stopped a crime against you, me or someone else. Although imperfect, he was still a veteran officer. Which is better a potentially flawed cop, or no cop? Sorry to ramble... I don't expect you to react to this mess of a message. I am only venting.
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Post by professorx on Dec 23, 2009 20:18:22 GMT -5
Because if there's one thing God won't tolerate, it's giving poor people access to healthcare. You people are so unlike your God. Sometimes I think if there IS a heaven and a God, I might get to go and most Evangelical Christians won't, just because I at least give a shit about the less fortunate and I'm honest in my non-beliefs. Whereas, it seems an awful lot of Christians are a bunch of self interested, greedy, hypocrites who cherry pick the Bible for self serving purposes. But hey, thats just me. Merry Christmas. I agree with you,BF. I actually believe myself, though but agree with the rest of it. I'm afraid the guy in the video is much like allot of religious types. Preying for bad to come to others so good will come to you. Such good people, aren't they? Has it ever occurred to you that this might have been a prank call rather than an actual person praying for a politician's death? I would assume that ALLOT of the people on your side PREY on Cheeto's after hitting the bong, hence the lack of short term memory skills required to construct a single sentence without 10 spelling errors. With that said, its fun to demonize people with broad generalities. Its ALLOT of fun, right? Have you ever heard of the term "internal inconsistencies"? The concept is used to test the veracity of a statement. Read the "tea bagger" quote and tell me how many of inconsistencies you see. Or are you smart enough to realize the statement was a ruse and are being a typical liberal douche.
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