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Post by Warkitty on Sept 18, 2011 8:26:33 GMT -5
German industrial and engineering conglomerate Siemens is to withdraw entirely from the nuclear industry. The move is a response to the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in March, chief executive Peter Loescher said. He told Spiegel magazine it was the firm's answer to "the clear positioning of German society and politics for a pullout from nuclear energy". "The chapter for us is closed," he said, announcing that the firm will no longer build nuclear power stations. The Rest of the Story**************** With Siemens and apparently all of Germany from the rest of the article planning to abandon nuclear power, I have to wonder a few things. 1) where will the decommissioned parts and bits go? 2) what type of renewable energy resource will they choose? 3) will another company step into Siemens shoes, or will an existing competitor just enjoy the more open monopoly? 4) what affect will this have on the rest of Europe's nuclear plans? |
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Post by coffeeshooter on Sept 18, 2011 8:51:58 GMT -5
This reminded me of an article I read a few months ago. It may or may not be relevant to the Siemens story. Still though, it is concerning to those of us who are at risk from said nuclear waste.
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Post by joedog on Sept 18, 2011 9:37:31 GMT -5
and our city shall benefit.
can we say Alstom??
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Post by harsh on Sept 18, 2011 20:10:32 GMT -5
Never liked dealing with them anyway.
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Post by Ringleman#5 on Sept 19, 2011 3:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by Justin Thyme on Sept 19, 2011 4:30:27 GMT -5
They have to be embarrassed by that but the controllers they were using for those centrifuges are the exact same motion control controllers they use for all their industrial control systems. They are "totally integrated" which is exactly what bit me on some robots I was starting up at UCLA a few years ago. Not Stuxnet, just what happens when one servo controller is taken out in one of those systems. It affects everything. |
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Post by mikeydokey on Sept 19, 2011 21:30:01 GMT -5
Well, it stux to be them.
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Post by TNBear on Sept 20, 2011 19:23:14 GMT -5
Alstom and Westinghouse. Not feeling sorry for Siemens, they make a few jillion dollars a year in the health care industry. Next time you have an MRI or X-Ray or CT scan, look who manufactured the equipment.
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Post by ssmynkint on Sept 21, 2011 4:04:22 GMT -5
Not to mention their use of slave labor during WWII.
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Post by TNBear on Sept 21, 2011 19:34:57 GMT -5
Oh that. That was 60 something years ago.I am very concerned that there is a huge percentage of our population who could not tell you the dates of WWII.
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Post by joedog on Sept 22, 2011 3:53:35 GMT -5
Oh that. That was 60 something years ago.I am very concerned that there is a huge percentage of our population who could not tell you the dates of WWII. I hate to break this to you bear. In about 3 1/2 months it will be 70. |
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Post by rstewart on Sept 22, 2011 6:11:20 GMT -5
didn't VW also use slave labor during WWII?
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Post by gridbug on Sept 22, 2011 6:49:59 GMT -5
I am happy to say that the US will NEVER quit the nuclear industry, not as long as this country can scrape up enough to buy another bomb.
I hate to break it to you Joedog, but three months less than 70 is "sixty-something".
Well, there were a bunch with french chicks, and a really hot one with Eva Braun...
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Post by osrb on Sept 22, 2011 11:39:05 GMT -5
didn't VW also use slave labor during WWII? Yes it was. In fact it was started by Hitler who got Ferdinand Porsche to run it. history |
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Post by ssmynkint on Sept 22, 2011 11:54:56 GMT -5
Of Tiger tank (PzKw VI) fame.
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Post by Ringleman#5 on Sept 23, 2011 4:38:05 GMT -5
Total integration has it advantages when the removal of one servo affects the rest of the control scheme, at least in theory. (Err on the side of caution.)
Some of the servo controllers I use have this feature.
My curiousity, is what concern Siemens might see in a possible future variant modified to create other havoc in the nuclear industry. And yes, a huge embarassment factor too, Justin.
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Post by Ringleman#5 on Oct 18, 2011 16:01:12 GMT -5
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