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Post by gridbug on Jul 2, 2009 23:58:10 GMT -5
If you guys can carry your guns, may I carry my blades?
Not just your little pocketknives, but the straight razors and switchblades and that big one that isn't really good for anything but eviscerating?
And really, I work downtown. There was an armed robbery just under the noses of po pos and our own security this week. Is there some reason my corporate uniform should not include my gladius?
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Post by fuzzyscot on Jul 3, 2009 1:05:28 GMT -5
just remember, anything over 5 feet is not considered a "concealed" weapon.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 3, 2009 1:09:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure you could walk around town with a sabre on your side and you probably wouldn't be stopped by the police.
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Post by goomba on Jul 3, 2009 6:19:07 GMT -5
Im pretty sure he would get stopped by the cops.
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Post by gridbug on Jul 3, 2009 9:52:27 GMT -5
A 5 foot weapon might be able to be hidden on Goomba.
I've never gotten a straight answer as to the legal blade length here, but it isn't measured in feet. Carrying swords around town is frowned on.
If we can carry weapons for self defense, do they HAVE to be guns? If so then why?
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 3, 2009 12:02:22 GMT -5
Gridbug, fashion a scabbard with a blade hilt without the blade stuck in the top. Walk around and see if you are stopped.
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Post by goomba on Jul 3, 2009 17:41:08 GMT -5
no longer than 4in for a blade, I'll see if I can dig up the actually TN code.
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Post by NewsShooter on Jul 3, 2009 20:10:09 GMT -5
See about one of those walking canes that hides a blade. Stylish and savage!
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Post by goomba on Jul 5, 2009 14:33:53 GMT -5
if you get some basic training, a walking stick can be a very effective & devastating weapon!
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Post by zodiacman on Jul 5, 2009 20:21:21 GMT -5
Ahh, the gladius. A graceful weapon from a more civilized age. Not as random or clumsy as a handgun.
I strongly support 2nd Amendment rights, but I would rather exercise those rights with a broadsword or katana and not something as loud and obnoxious as a handgun. Do any LE people know if the concealed carry permit would allow me to carry a sword in a sheath around town?
Also, is there a dojo in Chattanooga that could train me on the proper way to use a sword?
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Post by goomba on Jul 5, 2009 20:45:46 GMT -5
multiple dojo's... depends on what you want to know/learn & who you want to rip you off.
I know of no permit for carrying around swords. really, if they are not going to let us carry a conceled firearm. do you think they are going to let us carry a sword? at some point, after the gun grabbers have taken away your right to own a firearm they will then start taking away your pocket knives..... the UK is already headed this way....
by the way. you do realize that one of the major effects of a firearm in battle is the noise.... loud noises make most people nervous.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 5, 2009 21:06:22 GMT -5
Maybe, but a Claymore lopping off three heads in one stroke sort of makes folks nervous too.
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Post by goomba on Jul 5, 2009 21:36:15 GMT -5
true, but it will come down to the psychology of the human mind during war....
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 5, 2009 21:50:18 GMT -5
true, but it will come down to the psychology of the human mind during war.... Why do you think lopping off heads was a goal to the warrior during the period of the blade?
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Post by goomba on Jul 5, 2009 22:56:33 GMT -5
ah yes.... I see your "point"
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Post by gridbug on Jul 6, 2009 11:38:05 GMT -5
See about one of those walking canes that hides a blade. Stylish and savage! Got one - they aren't as concealed as you would think. I can hear the way they rattle from 10M. But if they DO let you carry concealed firearms, then why not blades fit for self defense? The chance of a stray shot are significantly reduced. You get about the same amount of "self defense" in close quarters with less chance of collateral damage.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 6, 2009 12:11:33 GMT -5
See about one of those walking canes that hides a blade. Stylish and savage! Got one - they aren't as concealed as you would think. I can hear the way they rattle from 10M. It sounds like you have one similar to the one I gave Sushi's husband back a whole lot of years ago. He broke the blade out of it within two months. The quality ones are custom made and don't break so easily or rattle. And around here you hear the way they rattle from 10yds., not 10M.
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Post by goomba on Jul 6, 2009 18:06:53 GMT -5
I disagree.
first off, I do carry a blade, for self defense as well as a handgun. its just that my blade is a knife, not a sword.
collateral damage? thats why you have hollowpoints and you make certin of your target & its backstop. remember Jeff Coopers four rules? they are a sticky in this forum....well, they were developed for use in combat, not the range. they just happen to transition to the range.
the four primary rules of safe shooting, wow, are made for use in a gunfight!
I have as much chance of colloteral damage as you do swinging a claymore. as a matter of fact, I'll go so far as to say that I have less of a chance, simply b/c I will try my best to avoid a situation in which I may be forced to use my sidearm.
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Post by Justin Thyme on Jul 6, 2009 18:16:22 GMT -5
The claymore was designed to create as much collateral damage within the arc of it's swing as possible so that's a bad example but you have a good point there. It takes way more training to be able to use a sword without cutting through and knocking over everything in the path of its swing than it does to accurately place a bullet without a lot of collateral damage. Now a dirk is a lot less likely to cause collateral damage than a pistol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 18:38:56 GMT -5
> I will try my best to avoid a situation in which I may be forced to use my sidearm.
That's a significant part that people who are so "against guns" don't seem to understand about those with a carry permit - that your lesson above is part of the training.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2009 19:12:39 GMT -5
> I've never gotten a straight answer as to the legal blade length here, but it isn't measured in feet. Carrying swords around town is frowned on. Massa Gridbug, I poked around on the Tennessee Code Annotated for a while. I found references to prohibiting Bowie knives, switchblades, and hawksbill knives, but I didn't find anything about blade length. Try walking around with a big ol' sword and see if you get stopped. If you do, ask what law you're breaking. If you need bail, good luck with that.
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Post by gridbug on Jul 7, 2009 7:07:57 GMT -5
I've never been to jail and have no interest in starting.
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Post by dvc on Jul 7, 2009 17:53:52 GMT -5
> I've never gotten a straight answer as to the legal blade length here, but it isn't measured in feet. Carrying swords around town is frowned on. Massa Gridbug, I poked around on the Tennessee Code Annotated for a while. I found references to prohibiting Bowie knives, switchblades, and hawksbill knives, but I didn't find anything about blade length. Try walking around with a big ol' sword and see if you get stopped. If you do, ask what law you're breaking. If you need bail, good luck with that. TCA 39-17-1307 (a)(1)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2009 20:51:29 GMT -5
I stand corrected. Thanks, dvc.
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Post by gridbug on Jul 8, 2009 11:24:05 GMT -5
And I sit enlightened. Thanks dvc I guess knowing IS half the battle. Not even a club? At least we can carry a pointed stick.
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Post by el Gusano on Jul 16, 2009 9:55:32 GMT -5
What if he's armed with a bunch of bananas?
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