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Post by osrb on Apr 24, 2012 11:48:05 GMT -5
Stratfor, the US-based private intelligence company, says that Senator John McCain's campaign knew that electoral fraud was going on in 2008 but chose to do nothing. What is going on now as President Obama faces changed circumstances? According to emails obtained by WikiLeaks, which is led by the embattled Julian Assange, Republican Senator John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign staff allegedly had evidence that Democrats stuffed ballot boxes in Pennsylvania and Ohio on election night. However, the candidate chose not to pursue voter fraud, according to internal emails obtained from the private intelligence and analysis firm, Stratfor. Did Democrats hack the 2008 Obama election?***************************************************** This is a perfect example of why we need better voter verification with photo ID. Why is no one in prison for this. It is a form treason.
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Post by BlackFox on Apr 24, 2012 12:34:39 GMT -5
Your right. It is shameful for people to have knowledge of not only a federal crime, but a crime that undermines the foundations of our very democracy, and do nothing. John McCain should resign in shame and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!
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Post by el Gusano on Apr 24, 2012 12:44:54 GMT -5
Along with every other liberal, which is the reason this kind of stuff prospers.
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Post by gridbug on Apr 24, 2012 12:52:34 GMT -5
And every "social conservative", which is the reason this kind of stuff prospers.
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Post by Warkitty on Apr 24, 2012 13:03:51 GMT -5
As if fraud is limited by party lines.
As if voter ID is going to help if someone hacks the computerized system.
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Post by Half-Tard on Apr 24, 2012 14:01:56 GMT -5
Correct, it's not who votes it's who's counting them!!
Shame on McCain..I doubt it's true makes for a good story though.
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Post by JC on Apr 24, 2012 14:05:18 GMT -5
Don't blame him for not doing anything. It's a lose-lose situation.
He would have been called an old racist for bringing up such allegations, following with a Bush/Gore like debacle with a recount and a re-vote.... that he would have lost as the same fraudulent voters would have voted again.
Atleast by not doing anything, he can loose with dignity
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Post by el Gusano on Apr 24, 2012 14:39:10 GMT -5
Who said anything about party lines?
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Post by Tsavodiner on Apr 24, 2012 18:20:36 GMT -5
I had one once and made farting noises on it while other people were talking.
On that other subject, McCain made the mistake of HAVING some ethics while competing with those who didn't and DON'T; that's why they'll probably prevail again in November.
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Post by Half-Tard on Apr 24, 2012 18:24:16 GMT -5
Then he must be a liar, if he had ethics and knew of a crime he should've reported it afterall he's sworn too!!
That's why I say it's just a story sounds good 4 years later.
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Post by ssmynkint on Apr 24, 2012 18:28:03 GMT -5
McCain sold his soul long ago. His "ethics" shift with the wind of potential voter sentiment.
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Post by apriled on Apr 24, 2012 21:24:16 GMT -5
"WikiLeaks and Julian Assange" are so awesome.
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Post by osrb on Apr 25, 2012 7:53:06 GMT -5
JC is correct it was a lose lose situation. He would have been called a racist and every other name in the book if he had said anything. Those of you who blame McCain for this are the same type of people who blame a rape victim for getting raped. Nobody seems even here to put the blame where it needs to be on the people who did this. I am sure even if there was 100% proof that BO and company would not pursue. Since they do not believe two violent people standing outside a polling place with clubs threatening people is voter intimidation as long as it only black people making the threats. The statute of limitations is not up on this and I for one would love to see the people who did the stuffing get stuffed in jail for the rest of their lives.
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Post by BlackFox on Apr 25, 2012 8:03:33 GMT -5
We should start with John McCain as he is the only named person in this. If there is evidence that he covered up a felony then prosecute him. It's the right thing to do. Then, in the course of the investigation, if details emerge as to who "specifically" arranged for ballot box stuffing, then of course prosecute them too.
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Post by BlackFox on Apr 25, 2012 8:05:56 GMT -5
Those of you who blame McCain for this are the same type of people who blame a rape victim for getting raped. Well then I guess it's people like you that can witness a rape and think it's ok to just walk away and say "I didn't see anything".
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Post by Justin Thyme on Apr 27, 2012 8:25:44 GMT -5
Those of you who blame McCain for this are the same type of people who blame a rape victim for getting raped. Well then I guess it's people like you that can witness a rape and think it's ok to just walk away and say "I didn't see anything". In this instance it was McCain getting raped. The way our justice system works I can understand a rape victim not wanting to get raped (metaphorically) again.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Apr 27, 2012 12:16:20 GMT -5
"We should start with John McCain as he is the only named person in this. If there is evidence that he covered up a felony then prosecute him. It's the right thing to do. Then, in the course of the investigation, if details emerge as to who "specifically" arranged for ballot box stuffing, then of course prosecute them too."
You know....I don't generally agree with Blackfox (and I don't on this issue either) but he USUALLY thinks at least a little bit before posting. This has to be one of the STUPIDEST posts I have ever seen.
You can't START with John McCain in prosecuting the voter fraud participants. He can't be charged with covering up a felony until you PROVE A FELONY OCCURRED IN THE FIRST PLACE. The people responsible for voter fraud and intimidation should be charged, prosecuted, fined and jailed. They should then be banned from voting or becoming a politician at any level for the rest of their lives. People in other countries literally risk their lives to vote in elections. Here we have a bunch of treasoness idiots who cheat, lie and commit fraud just to get thjeir guy/gal elected while at the same time actively work to halt voter fraud initiatives. Worst kind of anti-American scum there is.
Now, if AFTER you have proven and prosecuted those feloniously involved in voter fraud, and you want to pursue John McCain for acknowledging the fact voter fraud exists and his not reporting it, then that would be fine. He SHOULD be held accountable and he SHOULD be ashamed for his lack of commitment to the American voters. He may, however, have a fairly viable defense on two fronts: he was the VICTIM of the voter fraud/felonies AND he may have some protection under federal whistleblower statutes, as he is bringing up the issue now.
Very, very poor logic and thought processing on this one, Blackfox....and anyone else who supports those guilty of voter fraud. You should all be ashamed. (Of course, those committing the voter fraud also actively pursue killing unborn babies, so you can't really expect them to have that high of a moral standard.)
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Post by BlackFox on Apr 27, 2012 12:49:15 GMT -5
How can they convict the alleged perpetrators of fraud if McCain won't show the evidence. He supposedly has proof that a crime was committed, but is sitting on it.
My point is that maybe, just maybe, this allegation is nothing but election year bullshit.
P.S. I wrote this while sitting on the toilet.
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Post by LimitedRecourse on Apr 28, 2012 15:22:56 GMT -5
It's nice to know you can spew waste material from two orafices at the same time.
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Post by osrb on Apr 28, 2012 17:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by BlackFox on Apr 29, 2012 12:45:11 GMT -5
It's nice to know you can spew waste material from two orafices at the same time. Created an appropriate ambiance when responding to your post.
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Post by Tsavodiner on Apr 29, 2012 21:36:55 GMT -5
I'm sending you both autographed (by me) copies of Brother Rodney's book: "My Journey from Rebellion to Redemption", and a VHS copy of his Epiphanous appearance on CSPAN this weekend.
I think I TiVo'ed his talk with Anderson Cooper, too.
And never, EVER, forget the crowd shouted: "Give us BARRABAS!"
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