As a police officer the biggest problem I see is that the kids are the ones controlling the parents instead of the other way around.
When things get too out of hand for the parents they call us and we are brought in to try and resolve things.
We cannot come into your home and spend 20 minutes on fixing a problem that has taken years to progress. As police officers we can only do so much with so little that we have.
It is not the police department, the court system, or caseworkers job to provide basic structure and discipline in these homes. It is the parents' job to ensure that their own kids are given the tools to know right from wrong. When these things fail the police department and our court system is forced to step in.
F.T.O. Curtis Penney #354 Chattanooga Police Department
Some of the streets that were considered the worst 10 years ago are the site for $200,000 homes and businesses to flourish.
Not to diminish fine police work but I'd like to know which neighborhoods he's talking about. If the area has been reconfigured like the MLK area, many of the problem people have simply relocated to other parts of town & are plying their chosen criminal careers elsewhere....
Post by frogkissinglady on Apr 10, 2007 19:11:45 GMT -5
My main problem with kids nowadays is that discipline is classified as child abuse and the kids know it, so if parents try any form of discipline, cops get called, parents get arrested...kids still act up, sometimes even worse!
I'd like to know which neighborhoods he's talking about.
I am not speaking for him, but I was thinking of the North Chattanooga, downtown and West MLK areas.
Many of the problem people have simply relocated to other parts of town & are plying their chosen criminal careers elsewhere....
And that is true. The aim being to relocate their asses out of Hamilton County entirely so they become somebody else's problem, no longer ours. Or make "doing their jobs" so difficult and risky the move, again, to greener pastures.
The goal being to relocate them to smaller and smaller areas where we can saturate and police them more easily and hopefully eradicate them or move them.
But until parents start to be parents, we are going to continually have to police these idiots out of existence... and their offspring.
I can't imagine any REAl parent surrendering their parental authority to the point where the frigg'n police are summonsed to oversee & perform routine family disciplinary actions. Let's bring back Christian based orphanages on steroids if so many parents are, by definition, abusing their children by allowing them to grow up wild & uncultivated & without a moral compass.
Who are these parents? Drug culture warriors themselves? Bar flies? Criminals? HS dropouts? Allowing people like this to raise kids is defacto child abuse -- why would anyone think that scum sucking biological "parents" would/could actually ever parent kids correctly? These kids should be stripped out of hell hole homes & given a decent chance to make something of themselves in life by being raised by other people -- their biologicals are condemning them to repeat the pathological cycle of scum baggery set in motion by their parents ....
Post by snarkalicious on Apr 10, 2007 22:17:22 GMT -5
How can parents expect their kids to respect authority when the parents themsleves do not? Your children are going to learn from watching you.
I made the decision to homeschool my kids based on a lot of factors, one of which was watching parents who were called to the school because of their child's unruly behavior act like total lunatics themselves, cursing, screaming and having to be escorted off school property by police.
I have never spanked my younger kids. Never needed to. They have been raised to know that their actions have consequences, just like they will when they grow up-but losing control, cursing and hitting is NOT something we tolerate, nor that we do to them. If I expect them not to act that way, then I surely shouldn't.
The only cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.
An example of that is one of the schools that I deliver kids for.
They offer a very good education, but they are very liberal when it comes to the discipline issue.
Some of the kids respond really well (although I have a serious problem with them calling the teachers by their first name), and others don't. The ones who don't? Well, there's no recourse because they assume that every kid will respond well to niceness.
I can get 'em kicked off the bus, though, and when I write 'em up, there's some discipline going on, especially in the Russian households.
Other kids simply get kicked out of the school and have to go elsewhere.
"In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson