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Post by goomba on Jul 3, 2009 6:19:07 GMT -5
Im pretty sure he would get stopped by the cops.
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Post by goomba on Jul 2, 2009 18:09:03 GMT -5
what?
No takers?
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Post by goomba on Jul 2, 2009 6:00:50 GMT -5
and another one bites the dust.......
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Post by goomba on Jul 1, 2009 19:01:45 GMT -5
A Nashville restaurant owners and 9 others who asked to be parties but who asked to be included anonymously because of fear of retaliation filed suit on July 1, 2009, in Davidson County Chancery Court (Judge Bonnyman). They have asked the court to injoin the effectiveness of HB0962, which creates an exception for handgun permit holders to the general law which prohibits firearms in restaurants and other places that serve alcoholic beverages and/or beer. Oddly enough, the lawsuit does not claim that the companion law which allows on duty and off duty law enforcement officers to do likewise is also unconstitutional. A copy of the complaint is available on the TFA Forum at this link: www.tfaonline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2327&p=8410#p8410So what are the theories. Well, to start with the complaint is not written as a typically complaint under Tennessee law containing factual allegations and a prayer for relief. It is written more as a brief of law for the news media. It contains many references to news reports, internet posts, "wives" tales and folklore. It is well written but not well plead under the rules of pleading. It claims that the legislature was mislead by representations from the NRA, TFA and others about the number of states which allow handgun permit holders to carry in restaurants where alcoholic beverages are served. Indeed, in a footnote to the very first paragraph, the plaintiffs adopt the mischaracterization of the law such as often used by Chief Serpas and Gov Bredesen as a "guns in bars" law. It claims that Tennessee is now the only state which expressly authorizes "guns in bars." The complaint claims that the change in the law by the Legislature - creates a public nuisance - effects a due process violation by somehow "taking property" that exposes "bar owners" (really, is that what they are?) to firearms "with no effective deterrent". - effects a due process violation by enacting a change in the law that is "arbitrary and capricious" - violates Tennessee's Occupational Safety and Health Act - violates various provisions of the Tennessee Constitution - violates federal civil rights laws (42 USC 1983) as a "state created danger and state created vigilantism" - violates a dues process and "fundamental right" to be "free from gun violence in 'sensitive places.'" The plaintiff urges the Attorney General, Robert Cooper, to refuse to defend the case and to instead notify the General Assembly that it is essentially 'own its own.' Its quite sad the lengths to which these individuals and interests have gone I received the above email from the TFA (Tennessee Firearms Assc.) today.
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Post by goomba on Jul 1, 2009 18:54:06 GMT -5
Discrimination against whites? thats not possible...why just look at our wonderful City of Chattanooga's hiring practices.
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Post by goomba on Jul 1, 2009 18:47:47 GMT -5
and why is it that the meetings are always at a time in which a working citizen must take time off from work?
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Post by goomba on Jun 29, 2009 19:26:30 GMT -5
Officer Down: A Warrior's Sacrifice The Keith Borders Incident Brian McKenna Law Officer Volume 5 Issue 6 2009 Jun 1 Editor's note: This article is an expanded version of one that appeared in the June 2009 issue of Law Officer. The gun felt ominously light in Keith Borders' hand as he wiped the blood from his eyes and headed to the back of his patrol car. He knew the Glock 21 well from long hours on the range and was thoroughly familiar with its feel as the hefty .45s emptied from its magazine. It was nearly empty now, but the slide was still forward, letting him know that it still held at least one round. Don Mettinger, the gentle family man now turned beast, was getting to his feet again, still firing the deadly shotgun and seemingly oblivious to the blood flowing freely from a torso riddled with holes. This was Borders' last magazine, and although he had a Chief's Special strapped to his ankle, he didn't trust it to stop this madman. He would have to make this shot count. He took a deep breath, and released it slowly as he stopped next to the right rear fender. Raising the Glock into firing position, he inhaled deeply again, let its sights settle squarely between Mettinger's eyes, and pressed the trigger. The Incident The bloody ordeal had started about a half hour before with a call that Borders, a 34-year-old, three-year veteran of the large metropolitan police department, would never have handled alone under normal circumstances. It was a domestic disturbance that had been holding for over 15 minutes, and he had tried to wait for another car to break free before taking it, but most of the department was tied up working a major biker run several miles away, leaving the rest of the city shorthanded. When more calls started coming in from neighbors, Borders grew increasingly concerned that someone would get hurt. Unable to ignore the possible danger to one of his citizens, he reluctantly took the call alone. As Borders approached the luxurious two-story residence, he spotted two women, a large middle-aged man and a little girl in the garage. He remembered the man, a salesman named Don Mettinger, from an auto accident he had worked in front of the same house two weeks earlier. After coming outside to help, Mettinger had struck up a conversation with Borders, leaving him with the impression that he was an obliging, good-natured man.
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Post by goomba on Jun 29, 2009 17:42:37 GMT -5
cnn reported that billy died of "heart disease"
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Post by goomba on Jun 29, 2009 17:39:52 GMT -5
its all conjecture.
the court will rule, then it will be appealed, unless the money runs out.
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Post by goomba on Jun 28, 2009 10:56:17 GMT -5
actually that is your percived version of the truth.
women, should carry a firearm, if for no other reason than the typical disparity of size between an average male & an average female.
besides. women are better at following instructions. and therefore end up being better shots.
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Post by goomba on Jun 28, 2009 8:44:24 GMT -5
there should be a website.
sheriff Hammond is wanted TV monitors in the court house to showcase Hamilton county's top TEN MOST WANTED!
I like this idea, it lets you know who screwed up.
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Post by goomba on Jun 28, 2009 8:39:56 GMT -5
just a bit of clarification for the above quotes from the story. both of these points have been in the "carry permit" law from the begining.
A permit holder has NEVER been permited to consume alcohol, while carrying a firearm. as a matter of fact, a permit holder cannot have ANY Alcohol in their system while they are carrying a firearm.
A buisness, ANY buisness has the right to post their store/resturaunt/etc as a "No Firearms" location. TN law is also very specific about how a buisness must post their "no firearms" sign.
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Post by goomba on Jun 28, 2009 8:17:26 GMT -5
So I need a permit to carry a firearm in the open? Yes. unless you are in your home, or on your own property.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 20:42:05 GMT -5
gun show going on this weekend in clevland....
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 20:38:47 GMT -5
Smith & Wesson TRR8 Revolver A revolver that meets the tactical demands of today.
By NRA Staff The term “tactical revolver” sounds almost contrarian these days. Although the double-action revolver has a host of virtues, the explosion of tactical semi-automatic pistols seems to have relegated the revolver to a few select, but important, roles: concealed carry, home defense and hunting. The idea of a cutting-edge, tactical wheelgun that is a preferable tool for anticipated high-intensity encounters seems absurd when so many other choices abound. Well, not so fast. Innovation in materials and design, coupled with a specific unanticipated problem with the semi-automatic platform, prompted Smith & Wesson’s Performance Center to develop the TRR8—a revolver that meets the tactical demands of law enforcement or serves as a home-defense gun for the well-equipped homeowner. The TRR8 is a double-action .357 Mag. built on the company’s large N-frame. Although that is typical, this particular N-frame features S&W’s scandium, an enhanced aluminum alloy that is as light as typical aluminum alloy, yet much stronger. As a result, the big wheelgun weighs in at 35.3 ozs., making it easier to carry and quicker to handle than an all-steel N-frame. The cylinder is of blackened stainless steel, and the barrel is steel, too. The TRR8 incorporates today’s de rigueur feature of tactical handguns—a rail. In fact, it features two of them, with one over the topstrap and one under the barrel. The rails attach to the barrel shroud with Allen-head screws and are easily removed. They allow the user to mount various lights, optics and lasers, customizing the gun for various tasks. One can mount a red-dot scope atop the barrel and a high-intensity light beneath it, or even replace the factory rubber stocks with Lasergrips.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 20:33:53 GMT -5
we have been trying to get this law passed for the last ten years.
I find it interesting that so few anti/pro-gun people have replied to this story.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 20:29:50 GMT -5
The greeter simply requested to view a receipt. That is not an accusation of theft. LR is making up things again. actually, the greeter grabbed the officer in an attempt to stop him. if wal mart had properly trained the greeter, this would not have happend. in all, the greeter should not have recieved any money, it was the greeter that initiated the contact by grabbing the officer, and then you have the incident that was argued over a few pages back in the police blotter. and now vanisnoman can whine about my hissy fit.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 13:24:26 GMT -5
just b/c a public highway goes through the base, does not mean that the SF's did not have jurisdiction.
He was being an ass.
Jursidictional issues would need to be resovled with the local communitys and the military base. or even on a state level.
after watching the video, I think the SF's were very patient with the old bastard. they should have tased him. oh, wait, we wont let our military police have tasers.
personally I dont see a 1st admendment violation. but hey the idiots at the aclu will probably "find" a way to present the evidence in an incorrect veiwpoint.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 13:00:38 GMT -5
Hamilton place mall is now posted no firearms.
TN's permit is for open or concealed, as long as you are legal in carrying in the location your in you are legal. however, any business can ask you to leave b/c you are carrying. and you would be obligated under the law to leave. an example is wal-mart. several years ago somebody from the TFA wrote to walmart corporate and was told that they will not prohibit, as long as it is concealed, but we reserve the right to ask you to leave the gun in your car/ or leave the property.
and then there is the idea of, do you really want to carry it in the open? or do you avoid the hassle and just carry concealed?
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 12:55:22 GMT -5
biological age 34 virtual age 27.1 average life expectancy 74 life expectancy 80.9 I only have 17100 more days to live!
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 7:15:43 GMT -5
Im not really sure how to vote in the poll. but somebody getting screwed by Chatt/Hamilton.... hell thats a toss up IMO. the previous admins for both have treated our LEO's very badly. I'm not sure I want to fall into the trap of having to vote for the perceived lesser of two evils.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 7:12:36 GMT -5
Ill restrain my comments until a few more comments are posted.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 7:11:16 GMT -5
great article. now, it leaves me to wonder if any of those publicly elected bastards will read and comprehend. I agree, great article. but the council will not listen. the only thing they will understand is when they are voted out! Goverment by consent of the governed. Time we reminded that they work for us. not the other way around.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 3:12:01 GMT -5
OMG! THE HAIR!!!
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 3:08:53 GMT -5
If I remember my history correctly. this is the first time since the end of the civil war that the republicans have had a majority in the TN legislature. The dems are pissed. The problem arises that the city/county have arbitrarily ruled that a citizen cannot defend themselves in a city/county park. and the fact that the red bank Mayor told yoda that if he didn't like it then he should not go to the park? Excuse me master councilman, but didnt MY taxes help to pay for this park? are MY taxes paying to maintain this park? IS THIS PUBLIC PARK? then why master councilman, am I restricted from being able to carry my firearm here? is it b/c YOU dont like the idea of an armed citizen? I am more qualified than the average citizen. I have made the decision to follow the law.... to the letter. I know the laws concerning a citizens right to carry a firearm better than most police officers. I research the law, so that I can honestly say that I am following the law to the letter. Dear Master Councilman, YOU will NOT be re-elected again. because the government exist's by the consent of the governed. and I do not consent to your arbitrary ruling.
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Post by goomba on Jun 27, 2009 2:51:59 GMT -5
dont worry, PETA will be filing lawsuits against the pet owners for letting them die in the fire.
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Post by goomba on Jun 26, 2009 18:55:25 GMT -5
why are you defending her, she broke the rules and got her phone taken away, wah, big deal.
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Post by goomba on Jun 26, 2009 18:50:41 GMT -5
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Post by goomba on Jun 26, 2009 18:40:56 GMT -5
I'm not starting a chapter.
however, I have no problem showing somebody how to defend themselves with a firearm. Everybody should know how to properly and safely handle a firearm. I just wish I had an NRA instructors license. I would teach on the side...
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Post by goomba on Jun 25, 2009 18:04:12 GMT -5
now thats cool!
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