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Post by el Gusano on Dec 11, 2010 1:41:38 GMT -5
Why isn't this all over the front page and all the news stations? Something good came from WikiLeaks! WikiLeaks vindicates Bush
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 11, 2010 1:24:27 GMT -5
Mind showing it?
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 22:36:33 GMT -5
Really?
When have I ever done that?
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 21:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 21:32:13 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 21:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 21:25:08 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 17:53:17 GMT -5
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 10, 2010 9:44:38 GMT -5
no one is going to be buying a new house with an $11/hr job. yes, it's good, but keep it in focus. Really? I wonder what they do with that money? BTW, I know many people who have bought houses with less, and the lower the prices go, the more people who will be able to. On top of that, when they buy used houses, those in the current houses, can then buy new ones. Which frees up even cheaper houses and apartments for those who make less than $11 per hour.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 9, 2010 18:08:35 GMT -5
my "agrument" above adheres to Decartian syllogistic logic. You know, I've been thinking about your entire style of "debate". You jump in where I'm simply looking for information, declare that you know more about Russian history than the Russians do, and then declare that (at your word) Putin is wrong when he declares they are Iran's allies. If it were to continue, at your word, up would be down and black would be white. That's your "debate" and why you "win". ETA: Forgot about the old fall-back position of lying about what is said since you have nothing with which to attack the actual position taken by the person to whom your trollish drivel is directed.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 9, 2010 16:17:10 GMT -5
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb."
~ Benjamin Franklin
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 9, 2010 10:43:44 GMT -5
I agree that anyone who serves honorably deserves to get to stay, and that's the reason that many non-citizens enlist. I served with one man from Wales who was there for that purpose, several Filipinos, and a few other immigrants.
However, if they committed a crime by joining, I would be a bit more reticent in thinking so.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 9, 2010 10:23:12 GMT -5
Justin, because of the hoops they have to jump through to join the military, I doubt if the young man is here illegally.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 8, 2010 18:12:57 GMT -5
Whatever you say Festering Pustule. (That's my "translation" of your name.)
And please see the words "pure" that goes along with "democracy".
Alexander Hamilton, one of our founding fathers (perhaps you've heard of him?) said, “It had been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience had proved that no position is more false than this. The... ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.”
He also said, "We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real Liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy, we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of dictatorship."
And a dictatorship of the proletariat is still a dictatorship.
Now, are you going to rescind your lie that I support lynch mobs, or are you going to remain a lying sack of dirt?
You and Printimps cannot form a debate without lying about what someone says; says a lot about the position you come from.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 8, 2010 14:33:38 GMT -5
Wow!
More lying from a sack of dirt!
Imagine that.
Now, please show where I endorsed a lynch mob, you lying sack of Ronad.
And where have you ever cited a definition from a dictionary? Your ONLY form of "debate" is to call names, with nothing else added.
Every conversation you enter into is destroyed by the mere fact that the only way to reply to your asinine tripe is to reply in kind.
Go back to the rock you crawled out from under and leave the adults alone.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 8, 2010 10:54:51 GMT -5
A lynch mob is pure democracy in action.
Fascism is democracy run amok.
That's why we're not a pure democracy.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 8, 2010 3:53:52 GMT -5
No.
You are still having reading comprehension problems.
And you're still a lying sack of dirt unless you either retract what you claim that I said, or show where I said that ALL Marines going to Afghanistan had to show their long forms.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 22:27:36 GMT -5
So, you're admitting you're a lying sack of dirt, or are you going to show where I said they ALL had to provide it?
And they want a copy of our original marriage license to show her name change in addition to the long form that she already sent them, which she had to send to get her passport so we could travel. (Although, her passport would have sufficed in place of the long form since she showed the long form to get it, but they would still want our marriage license.)
Her cousin works at the Post Office in FL, and he's having trouble getting his too.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 21:18:38 GMT -5
Whatever, Ronad.
Printimps, I'm challenging you to show where I said that every soldier had to present a long form.
You're a lying sack of dirt.
But that's unsurprising.
And reality makes no difference to you.
I'm dealing with the reality of this situation right now, and have been trying to deal with it since July. You can fill out that form until your face turns blue, it doesn't make any difference when they want more information.
Even the long form was not enough for my wife.
You don't think she's filled out an application?
She has filled out more than one application of different sorts, and they still want more.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 19:53:44 GMT -5
And just how do you think new people will get in, in order to go to Afghanistan?
Here, I'll type it very slowly so even you can understand: T h e y h a v e t o g e t t h e i r n e w o n e u s i n g t h e i r l o n g f o r m.
And why would I want to call them again? My wife has been dealing with them for months trying to get her new certified copy, and even with the long form of her birth certificate, it's not enough.
By the way, you imbecile, why do you keep trying to say that I said ALL had to have their long forms? Lie much? Never mind, we know the answer to that.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 18:55:45 GMT -5
You really have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you? A lot of trouble discerning between "some" and "all".
Not surprising coming from someone who thinks it's OK to curtail Constitutionally guaranteed liberties for the sake of convenience.
If you want to see a source, go to the US Marines web site and see the info for Puerto Ricans serving in the Marines. They have to get a new certified copy. For some of them, presenting their long form is the only way they can do it, and even then, it's not enough if they've had a name change; they have to have the long form plus something else such as a marriage license or adoption papers.
BTW, since you have a reading comprehension problem, the acronym is "USMC".
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 17:32:26 GMT -5
So, you don't think there are any of those nasty little Spics serving?
What do you think all those little brown people are doing?
(BTW, several of them were in the news recently, some of them complaining about having to get their long form to serve in the military, but you don't need it to be president.)
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 16:52:22 GMT -5
Reading comprehension problems?
Oh, that's right, it's you.
I suggest you look up the word "usually". It is not synonymous with "always".
And the evidence was just given.
Or do you assume those stupid Spics are too lazy to serve in the Marines?
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 14:11:40 GMT -5
A claim without evidence. Are you high or just ignorant? Never mind, I know the answer. Ever single person in Puerto Rico has had to get a new certified copy. My wife, who had to have her long form to get her passport, had to use her long form again to get her new one, and even then it wasn't enough. She had to send in a copy of our marriage license. This has become an issue with several soldiers. (Although usually, once enlisted, it's not an issue, it is on occasion.) My wife is having trouble getting hers and it may affect her employment. Too bad she's not president! Then she wouldn't have to show it! Puerto Rico’s New Birth Certificate Law (Law 191 of 2009 – As Amended)Problem is, those certified copies are easily forged and sold and legitimate ones are stolen and sold. They usually go for over $10k each. Oh, and at least two high-profile soldiers who refused to serve until Obama proved his eligibility have had their deployment orders rescinded. Why, if it was sufficient, were they not in trouble and why was it not shown instead of changing their orders? Instead of facing issues ("Yes, I was a Muslim, but now am not" or "See? Here's my long form!") this current occupant of the White House is playing games just like Clinton did. Only difference is, that's part of what cost his party big time in these past elections.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 13:50:15 GMT -5
If he were being framed, I think he would have died "mysteriously".
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 6:26:27 GMT -5
Quadaffi simply claims him as a brother. Other Muslim leaders consider him an apostate Muslim. (Of course, Quadaffi has a good looking bunch of bodyguards that probably doesn't sit well with some other Muslim leaders.)
But, the denomination, not the individual church, has been openly Marxist in the past (when including the two denominations that united to form the UCC), until that became a dirty word, then they became "progressive", then "liberal". I don't know if they've followed Obama's and Hillary's lead and gone back to "progressive" yet or not. They are very liberal both politically and theologically, and are very politically active. (The local churches have some autonomy, but looking at his particular church's web site a few years back was pretty revealing where they stand, without even including the "God damn America" statement.)
Obama could have cut this "attack" off at the knees by simply stating "I was a Muslim, but now I'm not", just as he could stop those who are asking for his birth certificate by simply releasing it instead of spending millions to stop from releasing it, plus destroying peoples' lives who are asking to see it. (I still find it ironic that some soldiers are required to show their long form birth certificate to go to Afghanistan, and Puerto Rico has voided all birth certificates like the one he showed because they're so easy to forge.)
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 5:53:05 GMT -5
Ah, but there are ethnic Jews and religious Jews, and one cannot change ethnicity by any standards.
But, a religious Jew can be apostate; I don't know if proselytes can once again become non-Jews.
I do know that the Bible explicitly teaches once-saved-always-saved, but the title Christian is only applied to those who behave in a particular manner, not to everyone who is in the family. So a Christian can become a non-Christian, but can also be apostate, while never out of the family.
Besides, the denomination that his church belongs to (UCC) is much more dangerous to our liberties than liberal Muslim theology is.
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 7, 2010 5:06:12 GMT -5
According to Islam, once a Muslim, always a Muslim.
Have you seen his school records?
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 6, 2010 22:31:39 GMT -5
Plus he raped and killed a 11 year old girl. Really? Where's the evidence? There is no statute of limitations on murder. I'm sure the authorities would like to know. Or is this just some typical left-wing libel? I provided proof that Muslims consider him their Muslim brother. Now, can you do the same and back up your claim?
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Post by el Gusano on Dec 6, 2010 20:02:23 GMT -5
When and where did you talk to these people? Do you have a link to this rhetoric or is it just something you're parrotting from Rush Limbaugh? I posted the video where he is called a Muslim by his Muslim brothers. And the affidavit from the doctor who claims to have delivered him is available. It's been posted here before, but it may have been years ago. And I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh in at least 8 years, maybe longer. I've only listened to Beck twice to see why the left is so afraid of him, and I see why, since he supports individual liberties.
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