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Post by JC on May 14, 2011 10:03:30 GMT -5
Rosses Landing is considered "the park", right? So, does that make Riverbend, which is partially held in the "park", a park festival? Does the city somehow extend the boundaries of the park to cover the entire area used by the festival?
What I'm getting at here, is I'm trying to figure out how and where they (and when I say "they" I mean those people) get the authority to bar otherwise legal weapons from the event (sheathed knives, guns carried by permit, tasers, etc).
The majority of the event is held in the street areas, which would make a city ordinance baring weapons illegal. And there is no law in TN about carrying at gatherings.
So, it would only make since that the park is extended beyond it's normal confines during the event. Right?
And no this isn't a duke moment. I'm not planning on even going to Riverbend....
A question was posed on another board which got me-a-thinkin.
Can anyone answer this?
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Post by goomba on May 14, 2011 17:25:37 GMT -5
very good question. since I don't go to riverbend anymore, I have not researched this. would like to hear from one of the LEO's about this.
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Post by joedog on May 14, 2011 18:27:48 GMT -5
easy way to know where the "park" starts If you pass a pin Nazi, Your IN the "Park"
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Post by mikeydokey on May 15, 2011 7:01:38 GMT -5
You mean there's other boards besides this one???  |
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Post by Warkitty on May 15, 2011 7:18:23 GMT -5
Perhaps you would like to join them and leave us?
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Post by mikeydokey on May 15, 2011 8:35:17 GMT -5
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, PLEASE NO, NEVER, NEVER EVEN SAY THAT!!! Besides what would you do without me?
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Post by Tsavodiner on May 16, 2011 18:30:02 GMT -5
In days gone by, the Friends of the Festival leased Ross' Landing and imposed their own rules.
I've no idea if that's the case today.
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Post by JC on May 16, 2011 22:38:32 GMT -5
Interesting. So I guess being a "private" event gives them the authority to make rules banning what would otherwise be legal.... or allowing otherwise illegal things like alcohol in a park area.
Can I assume that carrying a "banned" but legal weapon past the gates would not be an arrestable offense then? Even in the actual park areas? (again, this is not a duke moment. Just trying to clarify!)
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Post by Scarlet&Gray on May 16, 2011 23:30:03 GMT -5
You'll have to ask Chip Baker he's Mayor during Riverbend week.
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Post by TNBear on May 17, 2011 19:40:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure where this question is coming from, nor am I sure I want to know. I do know that at a gathering such as Riverbend I do not want firearms, or weapons of any kind, to be carried by anyone other than our well trained LE folks. The very idea of several hundred sidearms at Riverbend scares the crap out of me, I am guessing that LE might feel the same way.
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Post by Bob on May 17, 2011 21:00:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure where this question is coming from, nor am I sure I want to know. I do know that at a gathering such as Riverbend I do not want firearms, or weapons of any kind, to be carried by anyone other than our well trained LE folks. The very idea of several hundred sidearms at Riverbend scares the crap out of me, I am guessing that LE might feel the same way. I would wager there are several hundred weapons at riverbend each year carried by responsible permit carrying citizens. You never hear about any of these because only a very few people ever know. (and the ones that "discover" the weapons aren't the type to talk to LE) Someone with a permit wouldn't think of pulling a weapon if LE was everywhere, like at riverbend, but the walk back to the car? different. |
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Post by JC on May 17, 2011 23:18:47 GMT -5
What Bob said. It's not about safety at the event but about safety before and after the event. The last time I attended, I had to park and walk all the way form near the Choo-Choo. That's a long, dark walk in a city filled with thugs "troubled youth". I do know that at a gathering such as Riverbend I do not want firearms, or weapons of any kind, to be carried by anyone other than our well trained LE folks. The very idea of several hundred sidearms at Riverbend scares the crap out of me, I am guessing that LE might feel the same way. I would guess that you're wrong. Cops generally do not have a problem with legal, permit holding, gun carrying. They're concerned about the illegal gun carrying by thugs troubled youth. As far as training is concerned, what makes you think that a permit holder is any less trained then LE? I have passed both TBI and FBI background checks, attended an 8 hour "training" class, and typically hit the range for practice\fun about once a month. I really don't wanna sound like a dick here, but take a minute and google your fears of permitted gun carriers endangering, shooting bystanders\innocent, or committing crimes with their guns, before you shit your pants by the next sentence... There are over 300,000 permit holders in the state of Tennessee. Not including the countless amounts from other states that pass-thru\work in TN\etc. |
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Post by Tsavodiner on May 17, 2011 23:47:32 GMT -5
I usually cache various firearms at strategic withdrawal points along my route to the car. Sometimes I place limpet mines and booby traps to cover rapid escape. www.weaponscombat.com/boobytrapsYou can't be too careful. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 6:23:00 GMT -5
Need any help unloading those traps?
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Post by Warkitty on May 18, 2011 8:02:10 GMT -5
Gotta be prepared Tsavo, cuz ya never know when the shits gonna hit the fan.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 8:04:03 GMT -5
Don't stand near the fan.
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Post by Tsavodiner on May 20, 2011 18:36:34 GMT -5
I HAVE no fans.
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Post by mikeydokey on May 22, 2011 6:25:11 GMT -5
C'mon now TSON, you know I'm your fan.
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Post by TNBear on May 22, 2011 19:58:11 GMT -5
JC, it is my guess that police officers have been through somewhat more than 8 lousy hours of training. How about it LE, is that all the training you received regarding handguns?
The number of people holding carry permits in Tennessee does not make me want to soil my skivvies. It does make me want to get into the business of selling firearms again. There is a helluva markup on them.
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Post by Tsavodiner on May 22, 2011 22:27:35 GMT -5
C'mon now TSON, you know I'm your fan. 'preciate that sincerely.... |
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Post by Tsavodiner on May 22, 2011 22:30:50 GMT -5
A fellow I knew once wrote an article published in the "FBI Law Enforcement Journal" entitled: "Point Gun, Pull Trigger".
I believe it's all you'll ever need to know about gunfighting.
That, and Bill Jordan's "No Second Place Winner".
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Post by JC on May 24, 2011 15:25:49 GMT -5
JC, it is my guess that police officers have been through somewhat more than 8 lousy hours of training. How about it LE, is that all the training you received regarding handguns? What makes you think that's the only training anyone else has? You have a much higher chance of getting struck by lightening then shot by a permit holder. About 40 bucks. Sometimes less then that. |
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Post by TNBear on May 24, 2011 20:14:08 GMT -5
I really hope you don't believe that JC. Most decent firearms I have seen run from maybe $200.00 to $1000.00 plus. That puts the largest markup at about 20% and the lowest markup would be negligable. Suppose this mythical firearms merchant sells as many as 10 guns a day. That makes his gross no more than $400.00. After his power bill, phone bill, advertising, permitting, taxes, rent/lease, insurance and a bit for part time help that puts him in the hole at the end of the day.
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Post by JC on May 24, 2011 22:16:42 GMT -5
I not only believe it but I can prove it.  RSR Group is a gun distributor. I believe their DBA\AKA is Dawsons. The Taurus 851 runs around 350 new on today's prices. That's a 35 dollar mark up. The FN Five Seven runs around 990 on today's prices. That's a 135 dollar mark up. That invoice is from 08 and prices have risen considerably since then so the comparison on today's prices are a bit off. In 08', that Taurus would have been sold around 325 ($10 mark up) and the FN would have been sold around 900 ($50-55 mark up). What guns have you seen marked up 200-1000 dollars? I want specific examples and proof of the mark up. |
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Post by TNBear on May 28, 2011 20:05:18 GMT -5
I did not say they were marked up that amount. I said they sold for that amount. Having been in business for most of the last 40 years it is clear to me that no retailer could stay in business realizing such minuscule markups as you suggest is common in the firearms business.
P.S. A 3 year old invoice from a vendor is not worth sh*t without the store copy of the customers invoice to see the actual, not what you think, markup. $10.00 is patently ridiculous.
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Post by JC on May 30, 2011 1:30:18 GMT -5
Lol. I show proof and you dispute it? Look up the prices from 3 years ago. My prices are within a few dollars of average price. Goggle it.
Not that, that matters... cost 3 years ago subtracted from retail prices today is only a 35 dollar markup on that one very popular gun.
They do not make all of their money from gun sales. They also have ammo and other doodads, range memberships, classes,transfers,etc
the latter two is a major seller and is 100% profit in most cases.
The range memberships is a100% profit after construction is paid off.
Think of it as a gas station only making 2 cents per gallon of gas sold. The gas is just there to get people to buy cokes and rubbers. Or a movie theater only making a buck or so on ticket sales.
The movie is just there to get people to spend 20 dollars on a small popcorn and a large no-refill coke.
I know that it's common for other businesses to have a 100-300 percent markup on things but this is not one. believe me or not...
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Post by cadillacdude1975 on May 30, 2011 21:13:58 GMT -5
this thread took a left turn at Albuquerque. did the answer ever get discovered? seems like i saw one of those BS no gun signs at an entry point a few years back, but that is a moot point as it was illegal to carry where alcohol was served (served in the street, so i guess it was illegal...who knows) but i guess it is a question for dickhead um i mean Littlefield.
like someone once said, concealed means concealed. better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. i bet that if it gets stirred up enough, the actual legal prohibiting sign will be displayed so it is probably best to let it go and go on the opinion of the police officers here and what they think.
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Post by melissadaisy99 on May 31, 2011 3:45:07 GMT -5
Great post! It's very nice. Thank you so much for your post.
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Post by Bryan Stone on Jun 7, 2011 12:15:14 GMT -5
who the hell are you?
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2011 12:23:58 GMT -5
she is a person in china or somewhere trying to boost seo for the link in her sig. not the first one posted here. instead of deleting it, the link is being changed... |
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