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Post by xterragirl on May 2, 2007 14:58:02 GMT -5
I'd say that in the grand scheme of things, divorcing him is not really what's on her mind right now. While I can't understand how this could have happened and I have zero sympathy for him, he is the father to three other children. They've lost a little brother and are looking at losing their father for some length of time. It's a crappy deal all the way around.
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Post by Felix on May 2, 2007 17:28:33 GMT -5
xterragirl observed:
It's a crappy deal all the way around.
Yes. All five lives are wounded beyond repair. And one is lost, before he even had time to become a person.
As for the three surviving children needing a father, they will need much more than that, to deal with the manner of their little brother's death.
Absolving the father of punishment will not moderate the other children's problems in any measure.
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Post by Jay on May 2, 2007 17:53:48 GMT -5
There is no way in hell I'd ever leave my kid in a car.. I only have one, but there is just no excuse... Can't put myself in his shoes at all.. Forgetting a cell phone, keys, or any other thing, sure, I could relate... But this...it's unforgivable...
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Post by stray on May 2, 2007 19:19:54 GMT -5
Beamers tend to have pretty good warranties.
Wasn't this covered?
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Post by Babs on May 2, 2007 23:12:02 GMT -5
The alarm thing is another thing I can't get over. His car had a movement detector. He kept hearing the alarm, looked out the window and saw nothing amiss. Deactivated with the keypad. Several times.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 3:07:09 GMT -5
Obviously none of you know of whom you are speaking. Very few of you are acting is a respectable or honorable manner. None of you have even have the right to belittle this tragedy with your so-called "sadness" (if this tragedy has happened in any of your families I will take back that statement in your circumstance). None of you can say that years from now you will remember Timothy. To you all he will be another one of your rant and rave that eventually becomes another statistic. But not for me. Not for us. The Reid family is one of the greatest. Tragic things happen quite often to godly families because Satan is battling,attempting to turn the family away from God. Only Satan himself could have so carefully plotted the events that led to sweet Timothy's death. If you don't know these events, what led up to Timothy's death, I suggest you humbly back away from the whole situation right now. Trying to speak about something of which you have little knowlege is ignorance at its best. Satan was attempting to drag the family down but he has already lost the battle as healing and comfort has already begun and Timothy is in complete bliss. Those of you posting on this site seem to be angry and disgusted at the Reid family,do you know them? I would suggest each of you send in your greatest fault or failure to the news and see what becomes of it. Think twice, maybe more than twice, before you speak out of anger. Most things spoken in anger are regretable. No pity need be shown for Timothy as he is in Heaven experience the ultimate and unmatchable glory, comfort, and love of God. Now it is time to grieve with the family. If you know them love on them and pray for them. If you do not know them pray for them and love on them with your words. If you do not have an attitude of love for them you need to get right with yourself and your God. Written with love, for my sweet Timothy- he had a better heart and attitude than any of you and he was only 15 months old.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 3:14:37 GMT -5
Posts keep coming in. People who say they only have one or two children and understand-they cannot. Sarcasm about any death is unbelievable. News reports that he didn't go to check on the car? untrue. He went multiple times to check on the car and got pulled back. why? Satan's premditating the whole thing. You do not know what the other 3 kids are going through so don't even think you can talk about them. Can you imagine a family member reading this site? What they would feel? the degradation you are causing. Is this even your news or business to be talking about? Show respect for the family. You are not helping anything..not making any kind of a difference. Only hurting those like me who find this post full of falacies and terribly slurs.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 3:19:10 GMT -5
I will try to clear up facts as I see them blundered. Timmy suffered no 2nd degree burns. You cannot get burns through car windows.
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Post by tcrashfx on May 3, 2007 3:40:37 GMT -5
Lemme see? The man left a child in a car because he had his head up his ass? The child suffered a very painful and lonely death wondering why his father would leave him in this situation?
WTF else do I need "knowledge" of? Give me one valid excuse for this rocket scientist's neglect and maybe I will have some sympathy for him. My sympathy is with the rest of the children he is supposed to be responsible for caring for.
You better believe it is my business. Somebody has to speak for the victim as he cannot, for obvious reasons. Everybody has a right to express themselves on their horror at this alleged act. I hope to God I am on the jury and I will make it even more of my business.
When my "greatest failure" results in the agonizing death of one of my children through my neglect, I will surely do that.
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How about I set you in a car that's contents are 135 degrees+ for 5 or 6 hours and see if you don't get second degree burns.
You need to read the rest of Romans. When you get done with that read a little Genesis, Deuteronomy and Leviticus, especially the "life for a life" parts.
So not only is it not the father's fault, it is our fault, now?
Me, nor the media, nor posters on this board, nor anyone else repulsed by this so-called father's behavior, LEFT ONE OF OUR CHILDREN TO DIE STRAPPED IN A CAR SEAT FOR HOURS!
Take your apologetics for this idiot and shove them up your ass.
Clear up some more facts for us, please.
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Post by tcrashfx on May 3, 2007 3:56:46 GMT -5
Here is poor misunderstood Reid's booking photo........ I bet no so-called parent will leave their child in a car (For the next several weeks anyway) so some good may have already come from it. Hopefully, the surviving children will be not be exposed to their father's "care" for many years and they will survive to adulthood. That is a good thing. The only "difference", in this case, that would have counted would have been if Reid had not had a complete and utter disregard for the welfare of his young child that day.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:06:07 GMT -5
If you do read the Bible, you know Satan terrorizes this world. And God never intended for things like this to happen. When Satan wanted to take all the good things out of Job's life-his family, his land, everything. God let him. Why? Because God knew that Job would turn back to Him. Sure enough he did. Satan stole a member of our family on May 1st and our family will only turn back to God. Getting angry and bitter only gives more glory to Satan. You cannot make me angry and I will continue to clear up things that people say that are untrue because I am directly involved..I guess I can't see where you're coming from..not having any kind of experience or calm perspecitve here. Peace comes from God..and when it does it is amazing. Tim suffered..he did. But he is eternal peace now. The car was acutally approx. 147 degrees and it was 7 hours. But no, Timothy still did not suffer 2nd degree burns. "life for a life" refers to a premeditated murder in which a life is taken intentionally. the only one who intentially took a life on may 1st was Satan himself..I wonderf if he knew Timothy would only bring God glory? I am glad I am the first in the family to see these awful posts as the Lord as already brought me peace..He is amazing. I can communicate openly about Timothy even the day after. No one without God could ever knew this peace. Timothy was far from lonely because he was child of God. And we are all praying and expect that Bob will make it clean and clear through the court hearing and will go home to be a father to the rest of his kids, who are handling things extremely well if you were wondering at all.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:07:34 GMT -5
you don't have to show my his photo....i have tons. the last thing i need is to see him angry and defeated..again.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:09:03 GMT -5
the pictures i will keep and remember are the ones of bob and the kids..bob and tim. the love..the fact that people keep saying he should be put in the car and cooked to death. and if they only knew that he would have given anything for it to be him in the car on tuesday. people have no idea what is going on really. i think tht is why none of this bothers me.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:13:04 GMT -5
You and anyone else can rant and rave and act like this is the worst thing you've ever heard of. But you've obviously moved on from September 11th, and the VT shooting, so I know Tim and our family will not be disgraced for long. Tim was a Reid and would have been just as disappointed at people's behavior toward our family...people who don't even know us.
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Post by tcrashfx on May 3, 2007 4:21:18 GMT -5
That is the least of the things I want to see. I really don't give a flying rat's ass fuck how Reid feels!
I really want to see him in a prison, without air conditioning. Not to rehab him. Not to bring the poor child back. Not to make me feel better. Not to make him feel better.
Merely for pure, unadulterated retribution and revenge.
But, alas, that is just wishful thinking on my part. My only hope is that he is mentally torturing himself to the point of insanity.
Wait, it was insane for him to abandon his youngest child to die, so he is already there, I guess.
Hate it for him.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:25:20 GMT -5
Well I can see there is not hope of respect, love, or understanding to be found here. I thought people might want to understand what was going on, how our family is feeling. I figured people rallied around families at times like these..guess my hopes were too high. i'll be praying for you...to forgive Bob. After what Christ did for all of us..how can we not forgive each other. have a nice night.
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Post by tcrashfx on May 3, 2007 4:27:34 GMT -5
I haven't "moved on" from those acts of madmen and I didn't "know" any of those victims either.
Oh I think he (And him alone, his family did not kill the child), will be disgraced for a long, long time. I'll do my best to ensure that.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:29:57 GMT -5
he is our family..if you disgrace him you disgrace all of us. if we can forgive him and God can forgive him...all I can say is that I will pray for you that you won't take satan's side over ours.
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Post by tcrashfx on May 3, 2007 4:31:58 GMT -5
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Nope. You came to the wrong place, which is the first thing you have gotten right, so far.
Maybe you could find a self-help group for families of murdered children who were murdered by their parents due to neglect. I am sure Oprah or Dr. Phil have already started one.
Google it.
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:32:03 GMT -5
I do have to say I understand why you are upset...but try to seek after peace..
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:33:18 GMT -5
peace that you are obviously not going to find yourself
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Post by romans1215 on May 3, 2007 4:35:29 GMT -5
the more you continue to try to bog down my family and bob with hate God will lift us up with love and hope and peace and eventually joy that i hope one day you can find. your attitude is a direct reflection of your heart. your heart is just out of place. God loves you and I forgive you for everything you've said even though you would never dream of asking my forgiveness.
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Post by gridbug on May 3, 2007 7:17:08 GMT -5
I was wondering what to do with my Post Of The Beast - #666 for me!
Blaming Satan for this is probably the most ridiculous thing I have heard all year. This guy has earned his stay in prison through incredibly gross negligence, and I would not be too surprised if he does not walk out...
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Post by Laura Rice on May 3, 2007 7:52:34 GMT -5
More on Toddler Death
Submitted by Kristen Johnson on May 1, 2007 - 10:41pm. News Police charge a Chattanooga father with the death of his child. Chattanooga police say 43-year-old Robert Reid has been charged with criminally negligent homicide and aggravated child abuse and neglect. This comes after 15-month-old Timothy Reid was left baking in a smoldering car earlier today..at the Chattanooga business Unishippers on Century Oaks drive... Police say Reid dropped his three older children off at school but failed to drop off Timothy at daycare. Anybody wanna bet this worthless, piece of shit sperm donor (His name and the word "Father" should never be in the same story) will serve less than three (3) months for this crime?You were pretty much right on the money with the Mary Winkler verdict so I would say you will probably be right on this one too, if he doesn't commit suicide before the trial begins. Laura
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Post by xterragirl on May 3, 2007 8:01:15 GMT -5
Romans,
Satan does try and come against people but in this case, this man forgot his child in a blazing hot car. That was not the work of Satan. What happens in their lives afterward will be the true test and when Satan will try and come against them to try and conquer and divide and test their faith in God.
I have been praying for this man but specifically his wife and family. But it seems to me that your time, supposedly being a close family member, would be better spent praying and being with your family more so then posting on a message board and trying to sway other's opinions.
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Post by Longshot! [ Saint ] on May 3, 2007 8:37:37 GMT -5
(if this tragedy has happened in any of your families I will take back that statement in your circumstance). -- ...So your statement holds that much weight?
You're supposed to be the pious and humble one here, correct?
Tragic things happen quite often to godly families because Satan is battling,attempting to turn the family away from God. Only Satan himself could have so carefully plotted the events that led to sweet Timothy's death. -- So, Satan carefully plotted the 15 months old dad to forget his kid on the car, then have the Dad shut the car alarm off that God put in his car in case he left his freakin' kid inside it while he sat at his office desk? Satan made him leave him, THEN ignore tha alarm that 99% of the rest of the public does NOT have that goes off for movement INSIDE the car?
Ever heard the bit about the man stranded on his roof in the flood, with the boats, then helicopter coming by? Then the following conversation with God?
...You are an idiot. I don't wand the guy to burn or suffer or even get a flaming case of herpies. But he DID forget his kid in the car, and DID ignore the alarm set off by motion inside it, and the kid DID die as a result of these things.
...YOU are condoning MORE acts of the same by this flippant 'Satans Fault' bullshit, and are just as much of a dipshit as the deadbeat dad WHO LEFT HIS 15 MONTH OLD IN A CAR TO ROAST ALIVE THROUGH SHEER IGNORANCE.
Let me know where you are and what your name is, because I'd like to take the time to slap the SHIT out of you, open handed.
(As carefully plotted by Satan, of course.)
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Post by Copperhead on May 3, 2007 9:09:07 GMT -5
Romans, bottom line, we as adults are responsible for our actions. It doesn't matter how many children a person has, that person is one of the two people responsible for the lives and souls of those children. Mr. Reid is responsible for the consequences of his forgetfulness or whatever it was that caused him to leave Timothy in the car all day.
Parents are second-guessed at every turn. This matter is no different that the multitudes of other decisions that parents make that others voice opinions about on this bb. We don't understand what caused this horrific death to this little child. This is why we are here, verbalizing our thoughts and feelings. We're committing no crime and inciting no violence.
We're doing our thing to deal with reality. You go do your thing to deal with reality.
Be the change you'd like to see.
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Post by frayne56 on May 3, 2007 11:26:52 GMT -5
The tragic event was no more the work of satan than it was God's will.
Some people drink entirely too much koolaid.
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Post by el Gusano on May 3, 2007 12:21:26 GMT -5
I think to prove murder, you would have to prove intent or direct action resulting in death. Pointing a gun into a crowd and squeezing the trigger, although you didn't have a specific target, would qualify.
On the other extreme, you have accidental death. You're cleaning out your garden and throwing rocks over the wall and hit someone in the head who's walking by - accident.
This was a case of neglect that had horrendous consequences that ended in a tortured deat. It was set off by events that were controlled by the father.
Murder? No. But, the Bible does have consequences for negligently killing someone, just not as severe as those for murder.
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Post by tcrashfx on May 3, 2007 13:03:16 GMT -5
Please Pray For The Reid Family - And Response posted May 3, 2007 I just wanted to ask everyone to pray for this family that so tragically lost their child yesterday. And also to ask that before you pass judgment on Mr. Reid to please think about what he and his wife are going through. Especially Mr. Reid. He has lost his child and also been arrested for what is obviously a tragic mistake that he will have to live with for the rest of his life. I pray that he and his family will somehow be able to get through this and that they will be given the peace that only God can provide. Elaine Cornwell Chattanooga
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