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Post by el Gusano on Mar 4, 2012 2:24:18 GMT -5
Maybe I should take a cue from Gus. I don't want to pay for schools anymore. I have no kids, why should I pay for yours to get an education? I agree with you. You shouldn't. Those who have the children should be paying for it. For those who argue that paying for public education helps everyone in the public, fine, but require something from the parents. If the kids don't want to be there or are disruptive, fine, let them go. Return the control (and the costs) to the community where the school is, or permit competition for the tax dollars by letting the kids go to the school of their parents' choosing. Schools that are accountable are better schools.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 4, 2012 2:21:24 GMT -5
In reality, if they earn no money, they pay no taxes. That tax money is paid by the person who earned, though the middleman leeches.
But, that's not what I said: What I said is they aren't putting anything into the system. They are producing nothing. They are nothing but an economic drag.
And unless they are incapable of doing any sort of work, they should be cut off. If they are capable of working, let them work. If we're going to do it through a government program, put them to work doing something for their money.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 4, 2012 2:17:34 GMT -5
Kitty, I suggest you read Murray Rothbard's "America's Great Depression", then get back to me. The things that you are suggesting are some of the things that exacerbated the problem then, and it's insanity to think that it would be any different now.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 3, 2012 16:04:40 GMT -5
And how many people can access those schools?
Only a few, and those few are paying for the public slot that their kid(s) is not using.
Vouchers would make it a truly competitive environment open to all.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 3, 2012 16:02:52 GMT -5
So, leeching off the productive is somehow beneficial to the economy? On what planet?
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 3, 2012 10:40:43 GMT -5
To add to what JiT said, when Chattanooga had only one cable provider, were things better?
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 3, 2012 10:38:47 GMT -5
Those freeloaders aren't putting anything into the system. You take money out of the system, from those who have earned, skim off a large percentage to pay for those who process the payments to the freeloaders who haven't earned it, and then put a small portion of it back into taxes, you have gained nothing, just put a drag on the system.
That's like saying that if you take a million gallons of water out of the lake and put 100,000 gallons back into the lake that you've added water to the lake.
Those who don't work still aren't paying taxes and are a net drain when you redistribute income to them from the producers.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 3, 2012 10:34:35 GMT -5
Which is better? Low end or nothing?
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 3, 2012 0:51:33 GMT -5
I wonder why the government is opposed to competition in the schools? Why are they opposed to monopolies other than unions and schools (also union)?
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 2, 2012 11:02:47 GMT -5
If those states were smart, they would take the PUBLIC land and put it to use instead of forcing every citizen to pay for it. Every state could benefit from PUBLIC land.
In Tennessee, you charge taxes to every citizen (except those who choose not to work) to pay for public land. In Alaska, they lease out portions of that public land and share it among all the public.
If you own a vacant house, you can just let it sit there and keep paying for all the maintenance, or you can put it to use. Which is better?
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 2, 2012 11:00:04 GMT -5
Why said it's an earthling?
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 2, 2012 10:59:29 GMT -5
Take away all federal support and return it to the local level, and there is automatic accountability built into the system; weeds out most of the freeloaders in one simple step.
Return to commodities instead of of a card (where's the stigma?). Instead, they are now proposing (and in some places already can) use their card at restaurants.
Return the housing to the way it used to be: Instead of luxury apartments with pools, use dormitory style housing. Make it so they WANT it to be temporary.
Make these people who "can't" find a job do the work to hand out all the food, move it around the warehouse, do maintenance, cleaning, cooking, etc. at the housing, or simply pick up trash on the side of the road.
Do you know how many people I deal with who are offered employment who manage to not continue working because it's too hard for the money instead of the freebies they get otherwise? You'd be surprised. I can't tell you out of the general population, but I CAN tell you out of those who are applying because they are forced to to keep there handouts coming.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 1, 2012 21:51:08 GMT -5
Santorum is punch line, but Obama is a gag gift.
And just how long do you think it will take to build that pipeline? It took three years to build the Alaska pipeline, and it still employees many, many people. Oil in Alaska supports approximately 110,000 jobs.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 1, 2012 21:46:33 GMT -5
How about what really happend. We are alien genetic experiments. Ironically, many people believe that, but reject the idea of a god of any sort.
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Post by el Gusano on Mar 1, 2012 21:44:48 GMT -5
And yet, there are "help wanted" signs all over the place.
People don't want to work. Kitty, you know that many people, given the opportunity, would live forever on subsistence pay, rather than work.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 29, 2012 22:56:22 GMT -5
Which in mathematics might as well be 999/1000ths. It's much more accurate than what we use in classes for pi by several decimal places. It's on a basin that is about 15 feet in diameter and is off by 15/1000th of an inch. Oops. I didn't finish my sentence. It gives pi to several decimal places, which results in an error of 15/1000 of an inch on a basin with a circumference of about 47 feet. I would love to hear the mental gymnastics required to pull this one off. Hugh Ross does a fine job of it. He went from an atheist cosmologist making fun of religion to a Christian because, while reading the Bible to make fun of it, he discovered that whoever was behind it knew what they were talking about. No mental gymnastics required. (However, an understanding of Hebrew is very helpful. That's why rabbis and early Christians came up with the Big Bang theory several centuries before science did.)
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 29, 2012 22:43:30 GMT -5
The word "mansions" is in the British English usage, specifically the way it was used at the time.
Not "mansions" in the modern, American Hollywood use.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 29, 2012 1:28:53 GMT -5
Yes. I have not problem with that.
But they are not underpaid the everyone likes to claim.
Now, if we could just hold them accountable, plus let them do their jobs without the PC police handcuffing them.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 28, 2012 23:59:16 GMT -5
Ever seen my parents' house?
They take home quite a bit.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 28, 2012 23:57:00 GMT -5
The median salary for teachers in the US is between $40k and $43k per year. [/url] Figure that this is for ten months of employment.[/quote] You have to figure more than that: They have lifetime benefits after 20 years, at which point they can retire then go to work for another school system while drawing a full retirement pay.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 28, 2012 23:55:24 GMT -5
If there will be no jobs created, just who, praytell, will build it and operate it?
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 28, 2012 16:06:39 GMT -5
Umm... that would specifically be a supply vs demand problem; the world demands more, so the prices go higher. Santorum said nothing about the causes of rising fuel prices, btw, although if the current occupant of the White House would get out of the way and let them build the pipeline, thousands of jobs would be created and more fuel would become available.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 28, 2012 16:04:33 GMT -5
Hour for hour, teachers are some of the highest paid employees in the USA.
But, in the public schools, the good teachers aren't permitted to teach, and the bad teachers are protected by the unions. That's why private and charter schools not only cost less per student, but put out a better quality of product.
And since natural evolution cannot be backed up by science, why is it promoted over anything else? Oh, that's right, the state sponsored religion of Secular Humanism. More and more biologists, particularly of the geneticist bent, are saying that the odds against it happening naturally are so phenomenally out of the realm of possibility, that it's impossible. And not all of them believe in the God of the Bible. (Although, after becoming geneticists, many of them do become believers. The same with cosmologists and other scientists, particularly after they discover that the Bible teaches that the universe is 16.4 billion years old and talks about the different stages of geology.)
The only way they can rationalize it without outside influence is the multiple universe theory, which is a valid argument, although just as unprovable as the God of the Bible.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 27, 2012 16:35:20 GMT -5
I wonder why we spend more per student on education than places like Japan, yet they outperform our students?
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 27, 2012 16:31:55 GMT -5
It's really easy to spend money that someone else has earned.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 27, 2012 16:28:37 GMT -5
I think you should just let every criminal go, unless you can make a profit by arresting him.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 26, 2012 2:31:44 GMT -5
Finally, SOMEONE (zodiacman), has attacked him for something real!
And you are right on the money in your observations.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 25, 2012 16:44:07 GMT -5
In what way does he want to get the government into your bedroom? Please cite some examples from his speeches or voting record.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 25, 2012 13:06:14 GMT -5
Wow!
JiT attacks Santorum for something real.
Aceman unsurprisingly uses lies.
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Post by el Gusano on Feb 25, 2012 13:04:29 GMT -5
But how many errors are there?
For example, when Maimonides claimed that there were at least ten dimensions, of which we can perceive four (the three physical dimensions and one time dimension), he was told that he was in error. Modern physics now tells us that he was correct.
When the Bible claimed that the universe and time both had a beginning, it was in error. We now know that this is true.
It gives pi to within 15/1000th of an inch.
It tells us that the universe is 16.4 billion years old, which is well within the margin of error that science gives.
So, which errors do we want to discuss?
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